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Jesus & the Holy Spirit
Did Jesus wait to preach until He was 30 because that was when He become filled with the Spirit after baptism? But, Jesus is the Spirit, right? I've just been thinking about this lately and going back & forth with it. I must admit that I haven't looked into it deeper on my own but just wanted to see your thoughts on it. Thanks
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Permalink Reply by Rita Cullimore on
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LT and Amanda,
Jesus was and is a member of the Trinity, being the Son. However, the way I see it is that He came to earth to live as a man. Therefore, while a man, He had to live with the comfort of the Holy Spirit. It was by faith that He accomplished what He accomplished. Even though He had the same infirmities as man can have, He performed miracles though the Power of God. He showed us what we could accomplish if we mirrored His faith and belief.
He had His moments of weakness (in the garden) but He prevailed by doing what His Father sent Him to do. He told the disciples that they would accomplish greater things than He accomplished. There are people accomplishing great things today because of the faith they have in God.
Jesus made His Will to mirror the Father's even though He was a man. The Father's Will was His Will. They were identical. He wouldn't allow the flesh to take control. In the garden, He didn't want to die but He agreed to do the Will of the Father.
We need to do the same. We need to work at making God's Will be our will. BUT first we need to study the Word to understand what God's Will is. We have been given it in His Word. It is our responsibility to understand it and do it.
Blessings.....
Rita
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Permalink Reply by Leonard T on
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Rita,
Good word, but needs a clarity point. Jesus was not just a man (not saying you said this, but this is the clarity point), He was complete God and complete man. As God who took on the flesh He chose to veil His deity, and thus, chose to live as a man, though never ceasing to be God. The problem in this whole issue of how we view Jesus is that people in general tend to go to one extreme or the other. Some want to view Him as only a man that was indwelt with the Holy Spirit and others want to view Him as God who only wore human clothing (flesh). The Bible teaches us that He is complete God and complete man. He chose to lay His authority aside and to live according to the Father's will empowered by the Holy Spirit by choice. In doing this we can identify at least two benefits. 1) He experienced the full human experience, minus sin. 2) He set an example of what God can do through man that is fully surrendered to the Father's will. There is one more key to add which relates to the miracles. We do not need to seek to do "big" miracles, but simply to do the will of the Father each and every day. If that will included parting a sea, then God can part a sea through a surrndered child of God. If God wants to witness to a lost person He can do so through the surrendered child of God. Thus, it is not the miracle, but our alignment with God that really matters. The rest is up to Him.
Lord Bless,
LT
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Permalink Reply by David Velasquez on
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>>Did Jesus wait to preach until He was 30 because that was when He become filled with the Spirit after baptism?
For the revelation awaits an appointed time; it speaks of the end and will not prove false. Though it linger, wait for it; it will certainly come and will not delay. Habakkuk 2:3
Hebrews 10:37 For in just a very little while, "He who is coming will come and will not delay.
Jesus says many times that it was not the time yet for him to do something his apostles or someone else were asking for. There was an appointed time for him to start his ministry. As it has been said - Jesus is fully man and fully God. He had to be baptized etc for him to start, but not because He didn't have the Holy Spirit but i believe primarily to mark the way for the Church.
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Permalink Reply by Tammy on
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I've always wondered why He told her it wasn't His time yet but did the miracle anyways.
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John 2:4
And Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does this have to do with me? My hour has not yet come.”
The term (woman) is not necessarily impolite, but it does have the effect of distancing Jesus from his mother and her request. Perhaps it has the equivalent of "ma'am." what does this have to do with me? The expression, common in Semitic idiom (Judg. 11:12; 2 Sam. 16:10), always distances the two parties, the speaker's tone conveying some degree of reproach. Jesus' tone was not rude, but abrupt. The phrase asks what is shared in common between the parties. The thrust of Jesus' comment was that he had entered into the purpose for his mission on earth, so that he subordinated all activities to the fulfillment of that mission. Mary had to recognize him not so much as a son whom she raised but as the promise Messiah and Son of God. My hour has not yet come. The phrase constantly refers to Jesus' death and exaltation. Since the prophets characterized the messianic age as a time when wine would flow liberally Jesus was likely referring to the fact that the necessity of the cross must come before the blessings of the millennial age. MaCarthur Commentary.
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I knew this had to come from a commentary because had I not already studied up on this passage, I would have not understood a word you was saying. Commentaries never speak English.
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I thought you were going to say, because it did not have any misspelled words. haha
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Permalink Reply by a servant (Chris) on
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Tammy
Looks like I have missed a good discussion. Others may have already shared this, through Mary He became human. Still He remand God through Holy Spirit. He was always both here on earth. We also know John the Baptist was filled with The Spirit. John was human lead by The Spirit. Jesus was Man and Spirit; God. This is how I see it anyway.
Lord Bless you Sister
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Permalink Reply by Colby on
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This discussion topic has generated 118 responses and 687 views, attesting to the considerable interest it has stirred within the AAG community.
Getting back to your original question, which asks why Jesus waited until he was about 30-years-old (Luke 3:23) to begin his public ministry, the Bible does not give us an explicit answer.
However, one likely reason is offered by Numbers 4:2-3, which states that a priest must be between the ages 30 and 50-years-old. If this view holds, then Jesus had to be at least 30-years-old in order to be taken seriously as a prophet, teacher and rabbi--let alone as the Messiah of Old Testament prophecy. Another reason is that he had to wait for John the Baptist, the last of the Old Testament prophets, to arrive on the scene to prepare the way for Jesus' ministry. Certainly, other explanations are possible, and I do not mean to suggest otherwise.
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