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Which gospel?
Ok, what about this?
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
http://bible.cc/matthew/24-14.htm
Now that's one of the big issues with the JW's...they said "who else is preaching the gospel in all the world?"
Now how can it be proven that His death,burial and resurrection are the gospel? What gospel is spoken of in Matt. 24:14 though? It sounds like there's two gospels, but that can't be right. Can someone please help and explain this?
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Permalink Reply by Leonard T on
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1Co 15:1 Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand.
1Co 15:2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
1Co 15:3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
1Co 15:4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
1Co 15:5 and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve.
1Co 15:6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.
1Co 15:7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles,
1Co 15:8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.
1Co 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles and do not even deserve to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
1Co 15:10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me was not without effect. No, I worked harder than all of them—yet not I, but the grace of God that was with me.
1Co 15:11 Whether, then, it was I or they, this is what we preach, and this is what you believed.
1Co 15:12 But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?
1Co 15:13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised.
1Co 15:14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith.
1Co 15:15 More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised.
1Co 15:16 For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either.
1Co 15:17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.
1Co 15:18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost.
1Co 15:19 If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men.
1Co 15:20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
1Co 15:21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.
1Co 15:24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
1Co 15:28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
1Co 15:29 Now if there is no resurrection, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized for them?
1Co 15:30 And as for us, why do we endanger ourselves every hour?
1Co 15:31 I die every day—I mean that, brothers—just as surely as I glory over you in Christ Jesus our Lord.
1Co 15:32 If I fought wild beasts in Ephesus for merely human reasons, what have I gained? If the dead are not raised, "Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die."
1Co 15:33 Do not be misled: "Bad company corrupts good character."
1Co 15:34 Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God—I say this to your shame.
1Co 15:35 But someone may ask, "How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?"
1Co 15:36 How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies.
1Co 15:37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else.
1Co 15:38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body.
1Co 15:39 All flesh is not the same: Men have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another.
1Co 15:40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another.
1Co 15:41 The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.
1Co 15:42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable;
1Co 15:43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power;
1Co 15:44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
1Co 15:45 So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.
1Co 15:46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual.
1Co 15:47 The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven.
1Co 15:48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the man from heaven, so also are those who are of heaven.
1Co 15:49 And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so shall we bear the likeness of the man from heaven.
1Co 15:50 I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
1Co 15:51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—
1Co 15:52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
1Co 15:53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.
1Co 15:54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."
1Co 15:55 "Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?"
1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.
1Co 15:57 But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1Co 15:58 Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.
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Permalink Reply by feet breath on
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LT, I'm sorry. I'm really confused. I thought the "death,burial and resurrection" was the gospel. But, what about verses 5-8 that you also bolded?
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Thanks LT. :)
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Ok, read
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
http://bible.cc/matthew/24-14.htm
Yet, read LT's post. It's the gospel-the death,burial and resurrection.
The first said "gospel of the Kingdom". What is that?
It's importent because the JW use that to "prove" they are the "only true religion". Since, like I was told early when they started on the "Bible study" years ago. "Who else is preaching the gospel to the whole world except Jehovah's Witnesses?" or someething like that. Of course, we know the gospel is the death,burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The JW don't preach death,burial and resurrection. They have a false gospel...and they use that verse I showed you to promote their false gospel. They preach their "Gospel of the Kingdom" more than on Jesus' dieing for our sins...of course they only believer Jesus died for our inherited sin from Adam. How do they expect people to get in to their "pardise earth" if they don't preach what is necassary...they don't preach that Jesus died to set us free and we have guranteed eternal life...they preach works salvation along with what Jesus did.
That of course means their missing the point entirely. The gospel shows He did all that was needed to save us we can't earn it in any way through any sort of works. That's the beauty of it; yet it's so simple when it comes to the true gospel. They say you need to do a set of rules to earn eternal life and yet it's still not guranteed. Jesus frowned about such talk from the Parashees (sp) who talked like that in His day.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
http://bible.cc/2_corinthians/11-3.htm
Is that what that verses is talking about? It's so simple! You don't knock on doors to earn eternal life-He knocks on our hearts' doors and He's the one that saves us! There's absoluty nothing we can do to earn eternal life. And, that's why the gospel is so beautiful. For He did it all. He died,was buried and rose again in His body so that we may have eternal life.
Rev. 3:20
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
http://bible.cc/revelation/3-20.htm
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Permalink Reply by Tammy on
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Oh DUHHHHHH. I see what you're saying now even before I read this reply. I'm still going to read it though. lol
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How did you manage to escape the teachings of the JW? I know you was never a member but they seem to be sucking your mother in. How did you not fall for them?
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By the Grace of God dear sister.
They came the Summer of 2008. I believed Jesus was God(although He wouldn't have saved me until May 2010). Their anti-Trinity watchtower, "Should you believe the Trinity" really got me to question what I believed. And, by like Sept. of 2008 I was pretty much convinced they knew what they were talking about! Like alot of people who fall for the deception...I thought they were telling the truth. Smiles and they had so many answers. They seemed so nice! Good thing when I was thinking about it they weren't there or I may have told them "I want to become a JW!" Well, the elder was strict and needed to loosen up his attitude...especially at first. I was actually considering becoming a JW. I had to make sure though. I found stuff online. I balanced out the beliefs. Something wasn't exactly right...
I ended up finding out I wasn't saved. I went on a search for the true God, true way of salvation. Jesus saved me on May 29th 2010,Sat.
It was by the Grace of God that I didn't become a JW. Good thing they didn't come a year earlier...for I didn't believe Jesus was God at the time and I would have probably joined. Good thing they didn't come when I was suicidal in 8th grade. I didn't commit suicide because I was afraid of going to Hell (I didn't realize without Jesus I would have went to Hell). Well, they say there's no Hell. So, I would have probably thought "There's no Hell so I can commit suicide. After all I won't be punished I'll just go to the grave. That's what I want! Out of this pain." I would have loved to be "reasurred" that Hell "doesn't exist", that it's "the common grave" and I could finally be out of my pain and not be bullied anymore!
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Permalink Reply by Rita Cullimore on
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Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are the gospel (good news). Preachers down through the ages have preached the same *good news*. There is only one gospel. Throughout the Bible, Holy Spirit repeats Himself. It may have slightly different wording, or an expanded explanation, but the meaning is the same. The way the New Testament is written gives us the gospel (milk of the Word) and the rest gives us a little history of the Church and the meat of the Word. In other words, the gospels are the primary grades and the rest is the higher education.
Blessings...
Rita
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Permalink Reply by adam chung on
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Its interesting that the JWs use that verse to support their Gospel. Are they serious when they ask who is preaching the Gospel in all of the world? Just because many of us Christians do not go door to door, doesn't mean that we are not preaching the Gospel. It is true that God calls all of us to minister to others, and that many Christians do.
"Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction." -2 Timothy 4:2
One of the most important things that Jesus did was teach us how to live. That includes being a minister to others by our words, and allowing the world to see Jesus living in us, which is also a way of ministering to others. JWs focus more on works rather than being saved by grace. To them, they HAVE to go around and spread their Gospel if they want a chance to go to heaven. Therefore, they most likely do it out of obligation, rather than love, which is obviously what God does not want. This being said, their intentions can seem to be good and holy to them, but we can see that their work is selfish because they are trying to earn their way into heaven by "saving others." Love cannot be left out of the equation!
God Bless,
-Adam
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"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind." Deut. 6.
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Yep, I remember when I was still "new" to the JWs, the elder asked who else is preaching the gospel in the whole world?
And true love isn't selfish
King James 2000 Bible (©2003) Does not behave itself rudely, seeks not her own, is not easily provoked, keeps no record of evil;
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-5.htm
God bless,
feetbreeze
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