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I was going to start a new group because I was not sure whether I should insert this topic in this group, but since the theme of this group is to reach out to the hurting I figure it would be a good place for it.

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE ACTIVITY OF FALLEN ANGELS.
I have had personal experiences in this area. I have seen many folks transform, not just manifest demonic possession by yelling or throwing up, but i have actually seen them changing into horrible things.

I have also seen fallen angels manifest themselves in material ways.
I am also familiar with the epidemic going around with drug user becoming posses.

So please feel free to ask - I will begin the discussion by answering a question that a dear sister in Christ asked me not to long ago.

A common question I have been asked about this subject is the following:

Q. What exactly is a demon and why do people throw up when they manifest and are delivered form demonic possession?

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so are people possessed by human spirits or some other kind of creature in spirit form? are the demons that i've seen manifest in front of me several times throughout my life a figment of my imagination? i have seen a number of psychiatrists (5 to be precise) in an attempt to strictly rule out the possibility of mental illness or instability and i can show you the documentation that i have ZERO abnormalities. so tell me...

what is it that i'm seeing and speaking to and who speak back to me?what is it that forces me to feel his emotions that nearly pushes me to death? what is it that pins me down in my bed and chokes me & violates my body, levitates me to the ceiling and literally punches me in the face while i sleep? what is it that growls in my face next to my bed and pounds on my walls in 3's and breaks dishes in the other room when i'm the only one in the house or causes fresh meat to rot in the fridge within hours?

what is it that has haunted and appeared to my family members for generations? is it angry human spirits with nothing better to do that can't make it into Heaven?

there is nothing in the bible that states that demons do NOT exist so why would anyone assume that the incidents that are spoken of are not what they are said to be? in my opinion what you argue is based purely on your own speculation, not evidence or fact.

i'm not attacking you here. i'm simply a bit offended that you would attempt to discredit those of us who have had genuine demonic interaction/attack without biblical foundation for your beliefs.

i read a book once called The Hidden Parables and it has an interesting concept regarding the parables Jesus told and new ways of deciphering them as a sort of "code" for performing miracles. it seemed harmless enough until the part where the author makes the same claim that you have here. that there are no demons and no satan. whom was it exactly that tempted Jesus in the wilderness? was He in your opinion hallucinating from lack of food and dehydration? then gave a striking depiction of His experience in full to the disciples later so they could put it in scripture?

i'm trying to understand why you would discredit what IS written in scripture vs reading your own interpretation into what ISN'T there?
Sorry I had missed our post beloved,

I personally think you are nuts, but then I am nuts too. Hahahha Ok -ok you I will be serious. :)

There are only two entities in the world apart from humans. One holy angels and two fallen angels also known as demons. Within both fallen and holy angels there are different ranks. Like in humans. There are different types of people and so it is with angels, so they may appear differently and be able to do different things according to the type of angel they are.

Both holy and fallen angels can manifest and usually the fallen ones do it in a way that would scare us. They know what scares us and then do that, but I personally think they are very beautiful in appearance for they are angels, but I may be wrong. It is possible that when they were cast out of heaven they lost their physical beauty, now bear with me when I use words as physical beauty when talking about spiritual beings or beings that are different from us, with heavenly bodies, but we lack the appropriate terms.

>>I have seen a number of psychiatrists (5 to be precise) in an attempt to strictly rule out the possibility of mental illness or instability and I can show you the documentation that I have ZERO abnormalities. So tell me...

Well I still think you are crazy, but that is because I know you and love you my sista. Naw just kidding you all and Jess is a good friend so I am taking liberties. You are a beautiful servant Jess. I missed talking to you girl. Anyways you are not crazy sis. Demons are very real. I have seen them both in people and materialize. One crack my forehead once for challenging them and God allowed it, because I was out of line.

>>what is it that I’m seeing and speaking to and who speak back to me? What is it that forces me to feel his emotions that nearly pushes me to death? What is it that pins me down in my bed and chokes me & violates my body, levitates me to the ceiling and literally punches me in the face while I sleep? what is it that growls in my face next to my bed and pounds on my walls in 3's and breaks dishes in the other room when I’m the only one in the house or causes fresh meat to rot in the fridge within hours?

Jess why are you speaking to them? Huge mistake, I have done it myself. Ask the Lord to rebuke them, but do not engage in conversation with them. You should be a bit more mature in Christ by now and I pray these occurrences have cease. We need to catch up. You are a child of God and it should not be so. I went through horrible experiences but only because like a knuckle head I was going into their domain in a time of backsliding. But no child of God should experience such thing for a long period of time. God may allow it in someone's life who is walking in holiness to teach them how to war against them, which is simply to believe God is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy greater than they are, there is no comparison, is like comparing a cell, not even an ant, but a cell of an ant against a T-Rex. They are nothing in comparison to God, what is man or a rebellious angel to God? Who spoke the universe into existence? Understand that, abide in the word and stand on it and call upon the Father to rebuke them and ask Him to send holy angels to assist you and protect you.

>>what is it that has haunted and appeared to my family members for generations? Is it angry human spirits with nothing better to do that can't make it into Heaven?

No such thing.

Jess - I know this was not directed at me, but you know I had to stick my nose up in here haha
Your experiences unfortunately are real, but we do not have to live in such situation.

Love to you sis.
"The shadows, smells, noises, pocking and prodding(?) that keeps one from sleeping for days were an everyday experience."

hey!! i just wonder why this is STILL happening to me every night. I've gotten into a routine of spraying holy water in the room and rebuking in the name of Jesus but they still do their silliness and kick and punch and choke me. *sigh* whatever. i guess it's building me up for something! After all, Jesus did say "it will be hard"...
i just wonder why this is STILL happening to me every night

Here's what happened to me, I had several demons working in me. (I don't like to use the word possesed, because Jesus owns me!).
Now, it's been 11 months, and..I'm better, but not fully free. I'm NOT suicidal anymore.
I hahe filled my mind with the Word of God, and prayed everyday.
So, I'm not fully free, but I'm much better. The more of GOD's WORD I put in me, the less room the devils have to work.
Also, they were 'cast out' Oct,16th, that's when the suicidal depression left. I know the demons are gone physically, but now I have to work on my mind,


What's left is my THOUGHTS. (LIKE; You will never be free, you will never have the joy of the Lord). these thought are from the evil one. He is the father of lies.

So, I will continue to read the word, praying, and fasting. And have fellow Christians pray for me.

Well, I don't know, but thanks for sharing. I know I'm not alone in my battle, all I can do is trust, and stand on the word. The mind is where the devil likes to mess us up.

 

And thank GOD for that Dean of Men. Thankfully, he rebuked that demon out of the room then prayed!

 

John

 

 

 

You are NOT alone for certain.....and God IS our only help in this one. My life has been transformed beyond belief and still I fight this same demonic battle everyday that I live...face to face in the flesh. But I see everything in a new light now. My mind has been renewed.

 

Don't lose faith and remember...

The battle is not ours but belongs to the Lord.

 

God bless.

I don't think posses as in ownership, I belong to Jesus, but they can be a stronghold. We let the stronghold in because of sin, or because of trials of life

 

,2 Corinthians 10:4 KJV For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;

So, we are to pull down strongholds, and as Jesus said, some don't come out except by prayer and fasting.

John

 

 

 

 

I read some of the posts in this discussion and they sure S-C-A-R-E-D me! Some of the experiences described are like scenes from horror movies. I had one dream that I just dismissed as that... a dream... bad dream or nightmare. While asleep or I thought I was, I felt this shadow of a man, big and bald and smooth and naked... he was dark like grayish, and his form had no distinct features I can remember. He was pressing me down on the the  bed, lying on top of me and he was extraordinarily heavy like he was made up of pure solid metal except that he was like a morph. He was pinning me down and trying to get his way with me. I felt like dying for lack of air and the heavy weight was taking its toll on my chest but I kept struggling to break free and then when I finally got hold of his folded skin at the back of his neck... I grabbed or squeezed it and with all the strength I could muster, I just threw him away from me. Then he fizzled out into thin air and I woke up. I wonder how I managed to do that... but I was so scared, fatigued and breathless when I woke up.  I wonder if that dream was demonic? From the experiences described here... seems like demons appear in the person's awaken state. But I see some similarities of the attack. I always believe that God in me was stronger than those stuffs and nothing like it ever bothered me again. I pray for those in constant or frequent episodes of demonic presence/attacks, may God deliver them from the miserable state of being scared and from whatever is preventing them to live a normal and peaceful life.

Macky...the greyness you described...the "trying to have his way with you"...the heaviness and all of it....

 

This is how my own tormentor chooses to torment me frequently. Sounds like you had a true demonic attack. But you know you don't have to be afraid of these dark spirits. THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEFEATED and the sooner we all learn that the sooner we will take hold of our authority in JESUS and dismiss them like the wretched and powerless spirits they chose to be. 

 

I am so happy that your attacks ended! AMEN. For some of us they are still going strong but who knows God's reasons for allowing things or if it's even his will at all but perhaps our own "lack of knowledge" or allowance of sin into our lives that opens new doors for them to come in. 

 

My battle continues but I am stronger today than I've ever been (and that says alot trust me!) I KNOW that I am a child of a KING and these spirits are beneath me. I lean into Jesus and trust wherever he leads me and I know that when I've learned whatever it is I need to learn from this it will be over as soon as it began.

 

Ironically I just posted this a few minutes ago before I saw this post:

http://www.facebook.com/notes/jessica-frantz/never-surrender-to-the...

 

Thank you for your insights Jessica... You have my prayers for a full turnabout from what you've been experiencing from your tormentors. God loves you and I know He will keep you because you remain in Him and you strive to delight in Him. God bless! (",)
thank you! :)

Wow, I'm glad there is "My battle continues but I am stronger today than I've ever been (and that says alot trust me!) I KNOW that I am a child of a KING and these spirits are beneath me."

 

I too, when they ATTACK, I know God is with me. also, all that I have been through, has made me the strongest Chrsitian, I have ever been. God is in control.

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