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At 3:16am on October 23, 2009, Pastor Bob B said…
Hi Hellofull,
The following is a devotional on divine healing that I hope will get you excited about the subject of healing.

In the love of Jesus
Bob


DIVINE HEALING

When ever we see a divine healing take place in a friend or family member, it is a glimpse of Heaven when we will all get new bodies that will never get sick again and will be healed forever.
I personally have seen many people healed over the years, and have had healing take place in my own body.

Up front I want to say that I do not believe that God heals everyone all the time. I have been battling chronic pain in my body for over 3 years due to a neuromuscular problem.. I will always allow other to pray for me, and believe God for my total healing. Even though God has not chosen to heal me at this time, I still am experiencing the next best thing, “GRACE”.

Grace is awesome and I have been walking in for quite a while. God gives me a task, and then he gives me strength to do it. There are some things God has ask me to do that in my own strength, I would be a failure. But His grace is enough to get me by, and even more.

I think there is a reason that not everyone gets healed physically instantly.

The scripture says, Is anyone among you sick? Then he must call for the elders of the church and they are to pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord;and the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up, and if he has committed sins, they will be forgiven him.

Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much
( James 5:!4-16 )

Healing and health in a person life takes time. We are in it for the long Haul in many cases. Being born again, planted in a church family, reading and trusting in the Word of God, receiving prayer from the elders, and from one other; All these things bring healing and restoration into peoples lives. God restores us from the inside out spirit, to soul, to body.

What good is it if someone is healed of a liver disorder, but is still and alcoholic? What good is it for some one is healed of sexually transmitted disease, if the person is still sleeping around?

Psalm 107:17-18 says, “ fools become sick because of their sin.” so we need to focus on getting people healed and free in their spirits by the new birth, then dealing with things like forgiveness and getting rid bitterness which can cause physical problems, also help them to walk away from sin. The fact is, that love always hope, and always believe for healing for others, because that is what the God kind of love does.

We must be very careful about putting burdens on others by saying things like, “ you must have weak faith, and that is why your not healed, or you must be doing something wrong in your life and that is why your not healed.

Remember Job's friends made this mistake and they were very wrong.

We are encouraged through the process of healing, it is then that we discovered that we have a wonderful Christian family who loves us, and will stand by us through the healing process.
This is the taring off the roof kind of Christianity, and bringing one another to Jesus that we see in the Gospel. We will stand by each other until they are totally healed here, or in the Kingdom.

We also have to realize that we will all get sick and die some day unless Jesus comes back first. This is the ultimate healing for us, So continue to pray and believe God for divine intervention and healing for our friends and families.

At 4:37am on October 22, 2009, Hellofull said…
^_^ The scriptures answers it all clearly. But if we join others who put meanings of their own for those verse we will surely end up with a very confusing doctrine.

We must not think beyond what is written just like what apostle says in I Cor. 4:6

'Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other."
At 4:35am on October 22, 2009, Hellofull said…
And okay, about John 1:18

John 1:18 according to you states:
"No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known." I can see you qouted this from the "New International Version"

How about we consult the "King James Version":
"No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him"

The one who have seen and declared about God was the Begotten Son. Why do I accept it as the more accurate translation of the verse? The scriptures ought not to contradict each other (I Cor 2:13). If we are to accept the New International Versions' translation of the verse, it will contradict what Christ declared about God in John 17:1, 3 that the only true God is the Father and not Him.

This is what others say about this verse:
No men have seen God. Christ saw God. Therefore, Christ is not man but God.

This is what the scriptures says:
"No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."

The scripture did not say that Christ is God nor Christ is not man. "No man hath seen God" does not mean that Christ is not man because He himself so declares that He is man (John 8:40).

Just like the verse Romans 3:10, it states:
"As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one;" It does not necessarily means that no one is indeed righteous because we know Christ is righteous (I John 2:1 New International Version) "Jesus Christ, the Righteous One."
At 4:35am on October 22, 2009, Hellofull said…
To tell you the truth, there is nothing in the Scriptures that teaches about Trinity... that is why they still have to CREATE such doctrine through a council.

About John 1:1, 14. It doesn't teaches about the divinity of Christ either. Confusions about this verse arose because of the term "word." What does it mean anyway? Word of God or a plan. It doesn't mean Christ who is already existed.

Is it in the scriptures that Christ began as a plan or a promise of God?
In Romans 1:2-3 Today's English Version, this is what is written:
"The Good News was promised long ago by God through his prophets, as written in the Holy Scriptures. It is about his Son, our Lord Jesus Christ: as to his humanity, he was born a descendant of David."

If it's true that Christ already has existed in the beginning, then there is no need of a promise regarding the Christ's existence.

Let us examine John 1:1, 14 then:

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth"

It says and the word was with God. If the word is Christ which is already existed and God in the state of being, then how many gods do you have now? A God who is with God?

It says the word was God. If we are to consult the Greek Scriptures we can clearly see that the term God or "theos" was used as an adjective not a noun. That is why in Greek it was wriiten as: "theos" and not "o theos." Thus in other rendition of the Bible it is written as the "word was divine"

What does it mean? In Luke 1:37, the word of God is not without power.

It says in verse "14" that the word became flesh. Of course the plan of God became flesh or man. When? When Christ was born of a woman (Gal. 4:4). It was the plan of God about Christ which became flesh and not God became flesh.
At 4:35am on October 22, 2009, Hellofull said…
And about John 8:58, here's what the Bible states:
"Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."

What does it mean that before Abraham was our Lord Jesus Christ?
In I Peter 1:20 Today's English Version, this is what is written:
"He had been chosen by God before the creation of the world and was revealed in these last days for your sake."

He was in the plan of God even before the world was created or even before Abraham.
At 4:35am on October 22, 2009, Hellofull said…
Yes, I agree the name Immanuel means "God with us." Immanuel is the name that will be called to the Child. It doesn't necessarily mean that the child is God.

Peter himself was called Cephas (John 1:42), meaning Stone. It doesn't mean that Peter is a stone in his nature.

And even "James the son of Zebedee and John the brother of James, to whom He gave the name Boanerges, that is, "Sons of Thunder"; (Mark 3:17). It doesn't mean that Zebedee is a Thunder in his nature nor his sons are thunders.

Even Elijah which means "God is Lord," Elisha which means "God is Salvation," and Daniel which means "God is Judge." All of them are men. The names they have don't have anything to do with their state of being.

Just like our Lord Jesus Christ, one of His names is Immanuel, which means "God with us." It has nothing to do with His state of being.
At 10:15pm on October 21, 2009, Hellofull said…
Wow, I just discovered this comment wall thing. It's nice to see there were already comments posted in here.

Thanks for the greetings and welcomes.
At 10:14pm on October 21, 2009, Tonya Hill said…
At 5:47am on October 21, 2009, Pastor Bob B said…


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In the love of Jesus
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