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I would like to try something on TheNET. I would like to see if we can engage in a Bible study using the forums. I hope to simulate a small group setting, but realize that there will be lag time. Here are the parameters that we will work with ... and this is open to everyone.

1) We will attempt to work our way through the gospel of John.

2) We will not tolerate negative comments made about a person or persons.

3) We will use the S.O.A.P. approach which = Scripture - Observation - Application - Prayer.

... 3a) I will post a Scripture text from the Gospel of John using KJV (no copyright attached)

... 3b) We will seek to make observations about the particular text. What is being said, what is going on, who is involved and what might be the points being made?

... 3c) We will then attempt to find the application of the text/teaching to our lives today.

... 3d) Wrapping up with a prayer pertaining to that which we have sought to discern.

4) It is appropriate to ask questions along the way.

5) I will operate as the facilitator and teacher of this online group/class, but want the open participation of others.

6) At the end of one week I will close the current one and start a new one.

This works really well in a small group setting ... let's see how it works here.

First Week's Scripture:

Joh 1:1-18 KJV In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (2) The same was in the beginning with God. (3) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. (4) In him was life; and the life was the light of men. (5) And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. (6) There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. (7) The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. (8) He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. (9) That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. (10) He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. (11) He came unto his own, and his own received him not. (12) But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: (13) Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. (15) John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. (16) And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. (17) For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. (18) No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Scripture -  John 1:1-18

Observation

Application

Prayer

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I'm not sure how this is suppose to work so I'm going to pose a question & see if I'm inline. So, since the Word is Christ, anytime the Bible speaks of "the word" in scripture after Christ, is it referring to Christ? Please tell me if I'm doing this incorrectly as this has been some tough weeks for me & my thinking is "out there" so to speak.

All questions are good. There are various expressions of the "Word" in Scripture. Three examples beyond Jesus as seen in John 1 are ....

.... the spoken word (Mat. 4:4)

.... the word related to kingdom principles (Mat. 13:19)

.... the gospel (Mark 4:14)

We know there is the Living Word, the Spoken Word and the Written Word.

What else do you observe in this text? Do those observations have application to our lives today?

Regarding observations on the Living Word, Spoken Word, and Written Word in Revelation 1:16 a sharp, two-edged sword is mentioned as coming from, or out of, His mouth. We also have Hebrews 4:12. I'm inclined to think that this means the Spoken Word is sharper than a two-edged sword because in the Written Word, not everything is actually spoken out of His mouth. We have 2 Peter 1:21 explaining how we have been given the Bible, men speaking from God, moved by the Holy Spirit. These men are our teachers. We read in Isaiah 30:20-21, "Though the Lord may give you the bread of adversity and the water of affliction, yet your teachers won’t be hidden any more, but your eyes will see your teachers; and when you turn to the right hand, and when you turn to the left, your ears will hear a voice behind you, saying, “This is the way. Walk in it.” World English Bible

Please correct any errors in my reasoning on this, or add your own thoughts, observations.

It's plausible.

Would it change the meaning of how we use the sword of the Spirit as it instructs in Eph 6:17? (I promised not to ask questions, but here I am -- I'm sorry.) It wouldn't really do any good to rebuke the enemy using the counsel of Job's friends, but anything that is "Thus saith the Lord" is a different matter, it seems.

Please feel free to ask in the forums. Yes if applied to every verse, because when we look at Scripture and understand that even though the Holy Spirit inspired the authors there are times that what is being said is by someone who we would not follow (i.e. Job's friends). It is still usable to help us understand the teachings and workings of God, but it is not a text that we would build doctrine on and expect people to live by his friends' advise.

Got it.
I think God wants me to repent of asking questions altogether. So I am going to listen to Him. Thanks, anyway.

LT, I am very grateful that you are doing this S.O.A.P teaching. Thank you very very much.

Amanda, I don't understand why God would want you to stop asking questions. I do understand that His chosen are to be still and know who He is. Something like that. Your questions and the answers you get is what helps people like me to stay focused of Gods Word. You ask questions that I never think of but am thankful that you ask LT and others because I want to learn too. If God is asking you to stop asking...... then I would understand you stopping too.

Welcome. Hopefully it will draw in a number of people weekly to the discussion as we go through the Gospel of John.

This is not a question but an answer that I found at gotquestions regarding Jesus using Scripture in the wilderness temptations. He did quote what God had said, written in Deuteronomy 6 and 8.

"Jesus’ temptations follow three patterns that are common to all men. The first temptation concerns the lusts of the flesh (Matthew 4:3-4). Our Lord is hungry and the devil tempts Him to convert stones into bread, but He replies with Scripture, quoting Deuteronomy 8:3. The second temptation concerns the pride of life (Matthew 4:5-7), and here the devil uses a verse of Scripture (Psalm 91:11-12), but the Lord replies again with Scripture to the contrary (Deuteronomy 6:16), stating that it is wrong for Him to abuse His own powers. The third temptation concerns the lusts of the eyes (Matthew 4:8-10), and if any quick route to the Messiahship could be attained, bypassing the passion and crucifixion for which He had originally come, this was the way. The devil already had control over the kingdoms of the world (Ephesians 2:2) but was now ready to give everything to Christ in return for His allegiance. But the mere thought almost causes the Lord’s divine nature to shudder at such a concept and He replies sharply, “You shall worship the Lord your God and serve Him only” (Deuteronomy 6:13). http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-temptations.html

When faced with the temptations of coveting, adultery, lying, etc ... we have God's Thou Shalt Nots with which to rebuke the enemy. The spiritual battle is hard.
Regarding copyrights and permissions when quoting the Bible, I generally quote from the ESV, and have been for a long time, and after receiving the recent AAG email regarding a copyright infringement incident made by someone, I did some research regarding quoting Scriptures, since I have been using mostly the ESV, and based on the guidelines of the publisher, I simply say ESV after quoting it, since I'm quoting it in non-saleable media and not quoting a whole book of the Bible and quoting less than 50% of the total text of the work being quoted. Also, any comments I make regarding the text are not for commercial sale.

I haven't researched any other versions or translations for their copyright guidelines, other than World English Bible, which is a public domain translation of the bible (no copyright), but I'm glad to hear this regarding the KJV, too, and I guess you will be quoting the whole book of John by the time the study is finished.

https://www.ebible.org/

http://www.crossway.org/rights-permissions/esv/

I may join this group study, not to ask questions, but to share my thoughts and to present understandings and receive correction as needed. I like the idea and the way you've presented it.

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