The Bible says absent from the body, present with the Lord. It sounds like you step from here to Heaven, to me.
Good question Nancy - in all honesty I have not thought about this issue at all. I simply copied and pasted an article that I found interesting!
It's interesting because some scholars think that during the 3 days between Jesus' death and resurrection he was in Hades. Maybe he visited paradise too?
I honestly don't know Nancy - I hope you find the answer as you say "based on scripture as much as possible?"
I do not agree with Douglas Jacoby's understanding. Sorry. If that is true, who were the captives that Jesus led captive after His resurrection? 2 cor 5:5 talks of away from the body, at home with the Lord. As Christians, I don't think we will be at the White Throne Judgment. When Christ died for us, our forgiveness was complete for those who trust in Him. I think our judgement is complete because God says there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. I think as Christians we have already faced our final judgement.
I also agree, with you.
I haven't really studied much about this issue but there are some interesting thoughts, eg what did Jesus mean when he said "My Father's house has many rooms;"? And what are we to make of Paradise and Hades? Who goes where and when do they go there? WHERE will the judgement take place (of all humans) AFTER death (Heb 9:27)?
I want to share something Rita and would like to hear your response to the question that follows:
Years ago when I was a young Christian there was a brother in our church who was a great guy and a spiritually mature Christian. About a year later he stopped coming to church and sometime after that I met him in a clothes store and started talking to him. He told me that he had no intention of coming back to church as he had converted to Islam.
If his judgement had been complete/final as a Christian, how will his judgement be viewed/considered as a Muslim?
Do you think it is accurate to describe someone as "spiritually mature" who walked away from the church to follow the Muslim faith? The fact he walked away shows either immaturity or a lack of faith (Relationship with Jesus) all together. One may say he had solid head knowledge regarding the Bible and even appeared to walk the line of religion. These in of themselves do not defne spritual maturity. Spiritual maturity is gauged by one's personal relationship with Jesus and our response to Him. If the man had a true relationship with Jesus instead of a religous experience do you think he would be changing religions?
I have to say that at the time he was spiritually mature in my understanding. I agree with you about the points you make but I do feel that the points you raised are realized retrospectively.
It is difficult to understand exactly why people have left the Lord, and I have to say LT, I do not believe that they all only had head knowledge and/or did not have a genuine relationship with Jesus, but there are scriptures that warn Christians against falling away, and we know that it happened and does happen.
How can we tell if a Christian who is in a genuine and productive relationship with Jesus is going to remain faithful, or in twenty years decides to change to a different religion? After how long in a Christian's life can we assess whether their relationship with Jesus is sincere or not? How long before we can (if we can) evaluate their (degree of) faith?
I agree with you LT - Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.
Thanks for the positive exchange. We disagree whether a believer can fall away, but that takes us down another trail that has been discussed in length over the years and here on AAG as well.
The last couple of questions are answered for me in that fact that we are to follow Jesus and not man. If my eyes are on the Lord the falling of a man, as tragic as it is, will not detour me in my walk with Jesus.
Amen LT - "Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, whom we acknowledge as our apostle and high priest." Heb 3:1
You are a great brother in the Lord (*_*)
I found this on Gotquestions.org
First, for the believer in Jesus Christ, the Bible tells us that after death believers’ souls/spirits are taken to heaven, because their sins are forgiven by having received Christ as Savior (John 3:16, 18, 36). For believers, death is to be “away from the body and at home with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:6-8; Philippians 1:23). However, passages such as 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 describe believers being resurrected and given glorified bodies. If believers go to be with Christ immediately after death, what is the purpose of this resurrection? It seems that while the souls/spirits of believers go to be with Christ immediately after death, the physical body remains in the grave “sleeping.” At the resurrection of believers, the physical body is resurrected, glorified, and then reunited with the soul/spirit. This reunited and glorified body-soul-spirit will be the possession of believers for eternity in the new heavens and new earth (Revelation 21-22).
I hope this make my answer a little clearer.