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Romans 8:1-11 (ESV)
1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.
3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,
4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit.
6 To set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace.
7 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot.
8 Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
10 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

Each of us have problems believing these 11 verses. Look them over, think about them, and if you are inclined, let us know where you might be falling short.

For myself, personally, I get into the flesh at times, instead of walking in the Spirit. Yesterday, for example, I went shopping with my good friend and we took her granddaughter with us. This child is very spoiled, because of over compensation by her grandmother (my good friend), who sorrows because the granddaughter is a product of a broken marriage. I swore that I would never carry her again. Fact is, I wanted to beat her tail!

Her language is despicable (she's 9 yrs. old) and she deliberately baits people. She is around us often but nothing we do rubs off on her. Anyone have ideas how I can deal with this in a Christ-like and Godly way?

There might be things that these verses say that reminds you of a situation or attitude you have. If so, please share.

Blessings.....

Rita 

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Hi Rita,

I know you said,"enough of this....".

But.....I have to say a word or two about this nine-yeard old girl.

What do you think it was that compelled her to listen and pay attention to Danny? (Yes, I remember your posts during his illness - "His name is Danny......"

You kept us all up-dated regularly....so well.

 

Do you think she needs a strong male figure......she can look up to.....trust and obey? Evidently(and sadly) her father is being detrimental to her well-being. 

 

Anyway, the 8th Chapter of Romans is one of my favorite chapters in the whole Bible. I advocate new Christians to read and study it early in their walk. Also, for veteran Christians to review it regularly.

A good post, Sister Rita.........praying for you........

Grace and Peace.        

Thank you, Richard. I appreciate your prayers. And I also appreciate you remembrance of Danny.

I do think that her father is putting the raising of his kids in the hands of people that do not care about the outcome. Or won't work towards the right outcome.

The son is on ritilin, which I despise, but, in this particular case, I think both kids need it. That truly is the only thing that keeps him calmed down and would do the same for the girl. However, I don't understand why she misbehaves when she is being treated well. I believe she is testing the patience of all but I would think that once she saw we weren't afraid to discipline her, she would behave. That isn't happening.

Personally, I am the type of person who like to see discipline in the formative years, so that having a talk with the child as they grow and need guidance, spankings won't be necessary. When my children and grandchildren were little, until they were about 4 or so, they received spankings for a teaching as to how to behave. After about 4, I usually could speak to them and they would mind. Danny has been gone 18 months and still...my grandchildren try to follow what *Grandpa* taught them (through discipline). They know that can't get away with much if I see it.

As an aside...one of my boys was born with a very angry spirit. I actually had to take him down and sit on him to get him to calm down. (Didn't use Ritilin or any other drug to do the job I was supposed to do.) As an adult, he is a fine person, believes in God and love people. He still gets angry, but not like he used to. Maybe I nedd to take those kids down and sit on them!

In fact, my oldest grandson sold a  vehicle yesterday and was going to buy a boat with the proceeds. The problem is, he needs a vehicle to get back and forth to school. I told him he needed to buy a vehicle with the money. He wasn't happy but he later came back and said "I hate to talk to you and mama because you both are so logical." At that point, he got busy looking for a vehicle he could afford.

The Bible tells us to bring up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it. It also says, spare the rod, hate the child. Unfortunately, the grandmother, who has these kids much of the time, doesn't believe that.

 

Regarding Roman 8, the first 11 verses tell us of the security we have in Christ through the Holy Spirit. I hope to believe that those who are not understanding OSAS, would realize that these verses are cementing that fact. The entire Chapter gives us that assurance.

Blessings to you, Brother Richard...

Rita

 

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