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I STAND TO BE CORRECTED BUT THERE ARE SOME CHRIST FOLLOWERS WHO READ LITERATURE WHICH COULD BE DECEIVING.

IF SOMETHING IS NOT FOUNDED ON BIBLICAL PRINCIPALS I REFUSE TO READ IT OR GET INVOLVED IN IT. ANYTHING "MYSTIC" OR IMPURE IS A DEFINITE "NO-NO" FOR ME...

I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE VERY POPULAR BOOK

THE SHACK

AND, PLEASE, TAKE NOTE: IT IS NOT MY INTENTION TO INTENTIONALLY HURT ANYONE OR TO ARGUE MY POINT, AS THOSE WHO DO NOT AGREE WITH ME ARE AT LIBERTY TO FOLLOW THEIR OWN INSTINCTS:

HOWEVER, I QUOTE THE FOLLOWING FOR THOSE OF MY CHRIST FOLLOWING FRIENDS TO SCRUTINIZE...

Herescope
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. (1 John 4:1)

Saturday, June 21, 2008
THE SHACK & Its New Age Leaven

God IN Everything?



By Warren Smith



"A little leaven leaventh the whole lump."
- Galatians 5:9




The Shack is being described as a "Christian" novel and is currently ranked number one on the New York Times bestseller list for paperback fiction. Many believers are buying multiple copies and giving them to friends and family. The Shack reads as a true story, but is obviously allegorical fiction. The book conveys postmodern spiritual ideas and teachings that challenge biblical Christianity – all in the name of "God" and "Jesus" and the "Holy Spirit." Author William P. Young's alternative presentation of traditional Christianity has both inspired and outraged his many readers. All the while his book continues to fly off the shelves of local bookstores.

Much like New Age author James Redfield's book The Celestine Prophecy, The Shack is a fictional vehicle for upending certain religious concepts and presenting contrary spiritual scenarios. Allegorical novels can be a clever way to present truth. They can also be used to present things that seem to be true but really are not. Some books like The Shack do both.

I was drawn into the New Age Movement years ago by books and lectures containing parabolic stories that were not unlike The Shack. They felt spiritually uplifting as they tackled tough issues and talked about God's love and forgiveness. They seemed to provide me with what I spiritually needed as they gave me much needed hope and promise. Building on the credibility they achieved through their inspirational and emotive writings, my New Age authors and teachers would then go on to tell me that "God" was "in" everyone and everything.

I discovered that author William P. Young does exactly the same thing in The Shack. He moves through his very engaging and emotional story to eventually present this same New Age teaching that God is "in" everything.

But I am getting ahead of myself. Let me first provide some background material concerning this key New Age doctrine that "God is in everything." A good place to start is with Eugene Peterson, the author of the controversial Bible paraphrase The Message. After all, Peterson's enthusiastic endorsement of The Shack is featured right under the author's name on the front cover.

Ironically, it was Peterson's endorsement that caused me to be immediately suspicious of this high-profile, bestselling "Christian" book. Through his questionable paraphrasing of the Bible, Peterson had already aligned himself in a number of areas with New Age/New Spirituality teachings. One obvious example was where he translated a key verse in the Lord's Prayer to read "as above, so below" rather than "in earth, as it is in heaven." "As above, so below" was a term that I was very familiar with from my previous involvement in the New Age Movement. This esoteric saying has been an occult centerpiece for nearly five thousand years. It is alleged by New Age metaphysicians to be the key to all magic and all mysteries. It means that God is not only transcendent — "out there"— but He is also immanent — "in" everyone and everything.

But, as I found out just before abandoning the deceptive teachings of the New Age for the Truth of biblical Christianity, God is not "in" everyone and everything. The Bible makes it clear that man is not divine and that man is not God (Ezekiel 28:2, Hosea 11:9, John 2:24-25, etc.) In Deceived on Purpose: The New Age Implications of the Purpose-Driven Church, I quoted the editors of the New Age Journal as they defined "as above, so below" in their book, As Above, So Below:

"'As above, so below, as below, so above.' This maxim implies that the transcendent God beyond the physical universe and the immanent God within ourselves are one." (p. 32)

My concern about Peterson's undiscerning use of "as above, so below" in the Lord's Prayer was underscored when the 2006 bestseller, The Secret, showcased this same occult/New Age phrase. In fact, it was the introductory quote at the very beginning of the book. By immediately featuring "as above, so below" the author Rhonda Byrne was telling her readers in definite New Age language that "God is in everyone and everything." Towards the end of the book, The Secret puts into more practical words what the author initially meant by introducing the immanent concept of "as above, so below." On page 164 The Secret tells its readers—"You are God in a physical body."

Most significantly, in his book The Reappearance of the Christ and the Masters of Wisdom, New Age leader Benjamin Crème reveals that a New World Religion will be based on this foundational "as above, so below" teaching of immanence — this idea that God is "in" everyone and everything:

"But eventually a new world religion will be inaugurated which will be a fusion and synthesis of the approach of the East and the approach of the West. The Christ will bring together, not simply Christianity and Buddhism, but the concept of God transcendent — outside of His creation — and also the concept of God immanent in all creation — in man and all creation." (p. 88)

New Age matriarch Alice Bailey, in her book The Reappearance of the Christ, wrote:

"…a fresh orientation to divinity and to the acceptance of the fact of God Transcendent and God Immanent within every form of life. "These are foundational truths upon which the world religion of the future will rest." (p. 88) [link added]

In a November 9, 2003 Hour of Power sermon – just two months before he was a featured speaker at the annual meeting of the National Association of Evangelicals – Crystal Cathedral minister Robert Schuller unabashedly aligned himself with this same New Age/New World Religion teaching. The man who claims to have mentored thousands of pastors, including Bill Hybels and Rick Warren, stated:

"You know in theology — pardon me for using a couple of big words — but in theology the God we believe in, this God of Abraham, is a transcendent God. But He is also an immanent God. Transcendent means up there, out there, above us all. But God is also an immanent God — immanence of God and the transcendence of God — but then you have a balanced perspective of God. The immanence of God means here, in me, around me, in society, in the world, this God here, in the humanities, in the science, in the arts, sociology, in politics — the immanence of God…. Yes, God is alive and He is in every single human being!"

But God is not in every single human being. God is not in everything. One of the many reasons I wrote Deceived on Purpose was because Rick Warren presented his readers with this same "God in everything" teaching. Quoting an obviously flawed New Century Bible translation of Ephesians 4:6, Rick Warren — whether he meant to or not — was teaching his millions of readers the foundational doctrine of the New World Religion. Describing God in his book, The Purpose-Driven Life, he wrote:

"He rules everything and is everywhere and is in everything." (p. 88)

Compounding the matter further, "immanence" has been taught as part of the Foundations class at Rick Warren's Saddleback Church. An ill-defined reference to immanence on page 46 of the Saddleback Foundations Participants Guide plays right into the hands of the New Spirituality/New World Religion by stating:

"The fact that God stands above and beyond his creation does not mean he stands outside his creation. He is both transcendent (above and beyond his creation) and immanent (within and throughout his creation)."

All of this discussion about "God in everything" immanence is to explain why The Shack is such a deceptive book. It teaches this same heresy. This book ostensibly attempts to deal with the deeply sensitive issues surrounding the murder of a young child. Because of the author's intensely personal story line, most readers become engaged with the book on a deep emotional level. However, the author's use of poetic license to convey his highly subjective, and often unbiblical, spiritual views becomes increasingly problematic as the story line develops. This is most apparent when he uses the person of "Jesus" to suddenly introduce the foundational teaching of the New Spirituality/New World Religion — God is "in" everything. Using the New Age term "ground of being" to describe "God," the "Jesus" of The Shack states:

"God, who is the ground of all being, dwells in, around, and through all things…." (p. 112)

This false teaching about a "God" who "dwells in, around, and through all things" is the kind of New Age leaven that left unchallenged could leaven the church into the New Age/New Spirituality of the proposed New World Religion. And while many people have expressed a great deal of emotional attachment to The Shack and its characters — this leaven alone contaminates the whole book.

Clearly, the "Jesus" of The Shack is not Jesus Christ of the Bible. The apostle Paul chided the Corinthians and warned them that they were vulnerable and extremely susceptible to "another Jesus" and "another gospel" and "another spirit" that were not from God (2 Corinthians 2:11). In the Bible, the real Jesus Christ warned that spiritual deception would be a sign before His return. He further warned that there would be those who would even come in His name, pretending to be Him (Matthew 24:3-5;24).

Without ascribing any ill motive to William Young and his book The Shack, the author's use of spiritual creativity seems to give a "Christian" assent to the New Age/New Spirituality of the proposed New World Religion. His mixing of truth and error can become very confusing to readers, and God is not the author of confusion (I Corinthians 14:33).

Dr. Harry Ironside, pastor of Chicago's Moody Memorial Church from 1930-1948, emphasizes the fact that truth mixed with error results in "all error" — a direct refutation of the Emergent Church teaching to find "truth" wherever it may be found — including books like The Shack. Ironside wrote:

"Error is like leaven, of which we read, ‘A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.' Truth mixed with error is equivalent to all error, except that it is more innocent looking and, therefore, more dangerous. God hates such a mixture! Any error, or any truth-and-error mixture, calls for definite exposure and repudiation. To condone such is to be unfaithful to God and His Word and treacherous to imperiled souls for whom Christ died." (quoted in The Berean Call, April 2008)

The Shack has touched the hearts and emotions of many people. While there are many other examples of the author's unbiblical liberality, introducing the heretical New Age teaching that "God dwells in, and around, and through all things" is in and by itself enough to completely undermine any value the book might otherwise have for faithful believers. To allow yourself to get carried away by this story, while disregarding the book's New Age/New Spirituality leaven, is to fall prey to the "truth-and-error" mixture that pervades The Shack. And as Dr. Ironside warned—"God hates such a mixture."

Before Christians buy one more copy of this book, they need to come to terms with what this author is ultimately teaching and what it is they are passing along to their friends and fellow believers.


The Truth:

"And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." (1 Timothy 4:4)

Warren Smith is the author of numerous articles and books on the topic of the New Age/New Spirituality and how it is entering the evangelical church.

Deceived on Purpose: The New Age Implications of the Purpose-Driven Church
The Light that was Dark: From the New Age to Amazing Grace
Reinventing Jesus Christ: The New Gospel...posted by Discernment Research Group @ 6/21/2008 08:53:00 AM

Yours lovingly in Christ

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Your Friend
Ramona P.

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Hi Ramona,

Thank you for this post. I read this book in the summer and was immediately drawn into it....It is well written and engaging. I couldn't put it down. But then after I finished it, I felt something quite different spiritually begin to happen...almost like a shift. I began to feel a strong conviction that God did not approve of me reading the novel. After reading the book I can understand how people who don't really know Jesus would be interested in reading it....., BUT, I cannot understand how anyone who does know Jesus would want the Jesus that this book protrays....Real Jesus is so much more!!!

God is who he is.

I have repented from reading the novel, and I definately do not recommend it.

There are so many views about this book.....I urge each person to go to God's word and seek the truth. God will tell you who He is.....you do not need a secular author to do that!

I felt that it is very new-agey.....but others do not agree with me.

...and be careful little eyes what you see!

Love in Christ, Carla
My dearest Carla
I think this I was nudged by the Holy Spirit to place this comment... I remember the harm that it did to you and I think that Christ followers have a responsibility to warn others of dangers. I mean if you know there are potholes it is your duty to warn people... Actually the Department of Roads or whatever should put up signs. I think you understand where I am going. I have not read the book and I refuse to be drawn into it because you warned me and thank you for this.

I think there was a comment AM I MY BROTHER'S KEEPER... Well I think we should be shepherds in humility and love because some folks are ignorant and walk into traps and snares.

God bless you and I am always praying for you...



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Your Friend
Ramona P.
Thank you for your Love and Prayers Ramona.

It is such a reassurance to know that God has His hand of protection on us all, when we seek Him, we will know that! I am relieved to know that HE is the ultimate Judge.

Thank you Lord. Lord I Praise You for carrying us. Thank you for knowing each of our hearts, and caring so deeply about each one of us. I pray that each one of us will seek You with our whole hearts, and therefore be able to hear Your still small voice, guiding us in Love and Compassion. In Jesus' name, Amen.

Ramona, Your Passion for the Lord is contagious....

Blessings Ramona, and Love in Christ, Carla
Thank you so much for sharing what was put on your heart...without hesitation or fear.
I think it is imortant to watch each step that we take and be mindful and prayerful,to seek out His truth.
That is to say: to take note of what we are hearing, reading, and feeling, and prayerfully seek His word,
and apply it to each situation. thank you again for sharing.
your friend in Christ, Shirley

P.S. I like the emblem above your greeting :)
Thank you so much dear friend
Your love for Jesus and the Way and the Truth is appreciated. One cannot be too mindful nor pray too much... I remember a little hymn my Daddy tought me : "Take time to be Holy..."


Take time to be holy, speak oft with thy Lord;
Abide in Him always, and feed on His Word.
Make friends of God’s children, help those who are weak,
Forgetting in nothing His blessing to seek.

Take time to be holy, the world rushes on;
Spend much time in secret, with Jesus alone.
By looking to Jesus, like Him thou shalt be;
Thy friends in thy conduct His likeness shall see.

Take time to be holy, let Him be thy Guide;
And run not before Him, whatever betide.
In joy or in sorrow, still follow the Lord,
And, looking to Jesus, still trust in His Word.

Sometimes it is so difficult... One must often agree to disagree... because it is so VITAL and IMPORTANT to realize that ONLY GOD IS IMPORTANT...

And thank you so much, dearest Shirley, may you be blessed

Fond love in Jesus


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Your Friend
Ramona P.
Ramona, what a beautiful song. I will teach it as a poem to my kids...maybe I'll set my own music to it. :)

Love as always, Carla
Hey Romona,

My hymnal, I actually still have one, has a fourth verse.

Take time to be holy, be calm in thy soul.
Each thought and each motive, beneath His control.
Thus, led by His Spirit, to thy fountains of love.
Thou soon shalt be fitted, for service above.

It was written by William D. Longstaff in the 1800s and music by George C. Stebbins

Lord Bless,
LT

I came across this older discussion...  I am resurfacing it because it's a good one... 

Ramona, I hope you're still getting messages from AAG.  We'd love to see you return. :-)

Dear Carla

Thanks for your message. I have been out of circulation for a long time now. Perhaps I should, in the new year, communicate again.  It is very kind of you to remember me. May I take the opportunity of wishing you and your loved ones a very blessed 2012. May God bless you mightily. 

Fond love

 

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Your Friend

Ramona P.

 

oh so happy to hear from you Ramona...  Happy New Year to you also..  of coarse I remember you.

I miss your contributions on here..

Praying all the best for you and your family in 2012 also. :-D

Bless you, Carla

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