Scared! I admit it. Verses that tell me God doesn't hear sinners/unrighteous people's prayers? - All About GOD2024-03-28T18:00:15Zhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/forum/topics/scared-i-admit-it-verses-that-tell-me-god-doesn-t-hear-sinners?xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noTake heart; we can know if we…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-04-12:1383940:Comment:17781032019-04-12T03:50:27.124ZKimberly D.http://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/KimberlyD
<p>Take heart; we can know if we are saved or not according to God's word. He is not the author of confusion.</p>
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<p>The true meaning of predestined comes from the 1st prophecy given by God himself in Genesis 3:15.</p>
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<p>The seed that would come, who we know as Jesus, and all that would be "found in him" at the judgment day would be saved. This is what God predestined from the beginning, he already knew the plan of salvation way back then when Adam and Eve…</p>
<p>Take heart; we can know if we are saved or not according to God's word. He is not the author of confusion.</p>
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<p>The true meaning of predestined comes from the 1st prophecy given by God himself in Genesis 3:15.</p>
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<p>The seed that would come, who we know as Jesus, and all that would be "found in him" at the judgment day would be saved. This is what God predestined from the beginning, he already knew the plan of salvation way back then when Adam and Eve sinned.</p>
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<p>The scriptures also bear out that God does not hear sinners prayers (unless they are prayers of repentance unto salvation). Just look at the passages where those NOT following God's commands and what happened to them when they presumptively thought they could pray to God and still do his own thing. This does not mean God cannot hear; it means he will not, (in other words he is ignoring those who want what they want and do not serve him).</p>
<p></p> That is extremely dangerous g…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-04-12:1383940:Comment:17778852019-04-12T03:33:08.678ZKimberly D.http://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/KimberlyD
<p>That is extremely dangerous ground to try and stand on. We cannot pick and chose which scriptures should/or should not be in the Bible and give by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to his Holy Prophets.</p>
<p>That being said, a right understanding helps to clear up all matters. You are correct in saying that you must consider the context, who's talking, where are they, what is going on, who are they talking to and more.</p>
<p>However, it goes much deeper than that; the scriptures…</p>
<p>That is extremely dangerous ground to try and stand on. We cannot pick and chose which scriptures should/or should not be in the Bible and give by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to his Holy Prophets.</p>
<p>That being said, a right understanding helps to clear up all matters. You are correct in saying that you must consider the context, who's talking, where are they, what is going on, who are they talking to and more.</p>
<p>However, it goes much deeper than that; the scriptures interpret the scriptures; that is why it is said that it is not open to private interpretation. All scripture must also be read WITH an understanding of ALL of God's word, not just the passage you are trying to learn from because you could very easily come up with errors in your thinking. </p> We must remember, we are not…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-02-05:1383940:Comment:17745922019-02-05T22:47:43.878ZJBhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/JoeBoyce
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<p>We must remember, we are not under that law anymore, in fact the gentiles were never under that law. Ro.4:15, says, Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. </p>
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<p>We must remember, we are not under that law anymore, in fact the gentiles were never under that law. Ro.4:15, says, Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. </p>
<p>JB</p> I would agree with that compl…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-02-05:1383940:Comment:17743882019-02-05T06:11:35.640ZRobhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/Rob165
I would agree with that completely. My point was that we can’t take verses out of context, and that not all verses can stand alone, nor do they all have the same weight. If Jesus, a prophet, disciple, Paul, etc uttered 9:31, it would carry more weight. It was none of these.<br />
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What if I took this verse by itself:<br />
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Luke 13:14 Indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, the synagogue leader said to the people, “There are six days for work. So come and be healed on those days, not on the…
I would agree with that completely. My point was that we can’t take verses out of context, and that not all verses can stand alone, nor do they all have the same weight. If Jesus, a prophet, disciple, Paul, etc uttered 9:31, it would carry more weight. It was none of these.<br />
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What if I took this verse by itself:<br />
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Luke 13:14 Indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, the synagogue leader said to the people, “There are six days for work. So come and be healed on those days, not on the Sabbath.”<br />
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Well, then we would say God wouldn’t heal people on the sabbath. But we know that’s not true. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV) 16 …tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-02-03:1383940:Comment:17743672019-02-03T23:15:52.284ZJBhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/JoeBoyce
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<p><strong>2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV) <br/></strong><sup><font color="#000000" size="2">16</font></sup> All scripture <i>is</i> given by <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em><strong>inspiration of God</strong></em></span>, and <i>is</i> profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: <br/><sup><font color="#000000" size="2">17</font></sup> That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.</p>
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<p><strong>2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV) <br/></strong><sup><font color="#000000" size="2">16</font></sup> All scripture <i>is</i> given by <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em><strong>inspiration of God</strong></em></span>, and <i>is</i> profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: <br/><sup><font color="#000000" size="2">17</font></sup> That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.</p> LT, I noticed you referred to…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-02-03:1383940:Comment:17742952019-02-03T21:17:35.898ZRobhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/Rob165
LT, I noticed you referred to the Bible as the Word of God. But there are no scriptures that refer to themselves as the Word of God. God’s word, or the word of God -yes. But when saying the Word of God, that’s always Jesus. The scriptures clearly say so. So many times I hear people quote John 1:1 alone, thinking the Word of God is the Bible, when you only have to read one more verse to understand it’s Jesus. That’s the same throughout the scriptures.<br />
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John 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word,…
LT, I noticed you referred to the Bible as the Word of God. But there are no scriptures that refer to themselves as the Word of God. God’s word, or the word of God -yes. But when saying the Word of God, that’s always Jesus. The scriptures clearly say so. So many times I hear people quote John 1:1 alone, thinking the Word of God is the Bible, when you only have to read one more verse to understand it’s Jesus. That’s the same throughout the scriptures.<br />
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John 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.<br />
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As far as the verse you quoted in Psalms, it’s clearly written by someone who follows God, who is saying God won’t hear him if he cherishes sin. That could be any person at any time, believer or non believer. Then we have to really dig deep to understand exactly what he is saying. Is he really saying hear? Or is he talking about prayer. And does hear mean more than listen, or does it actually mean engage or answer. We are obviously all sinners, all the time.<br />
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The whole theme of the Bible is God pursuing us relentlessly. It’s why he will leave the 99 to find the 1. The Bible is also us constantly not understanding this, and not understanding who he is.<br />
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We need not be without sin or even in a good state for him to hear our prayers. We need not even be consider a follower or Christian. We simply need to be broken or willing to listen to him. A least of shred of desire earnestly asking for his help. We can certainly be angry at him, or even hate him, but if earnestly seeking, he surely listens.<br />
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There are umpteen verses in the Bible where God answers the prayers of wicked people who did not follow him.<br />
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Let’s take Nineveh. God was working to reach them before they called out to him.<br />
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Jonah 4:11 Jonah 1:1-2 The word of the Lord came to Jonah son of Amittai: “Go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it, because its wickedness has come up before me.” And should I not have concern for the great city of Nineveh, in which there are more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left—and also many animals?”<br />
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In the end, God rescued them when they prayed to him. There are numerous accounts of God answering the prayers of people not his followers. They did however, have earnest hearts, or were broken, or both. They desired more.<br />
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Now, does he particularly answer the prayers of his followers - sure.<br />
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But clearly, he hears and and answers the prayers of anyone sincere in their earnest to reach him, or asks for mercy, so long as they are not against his will. There are numerous accounts in the New and Old Testaments. He doesn't, that's what His W…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2017-08-15:1383940:Comment:17398172017-08-15T03:29:26.417Zthewatchmanhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/puritanwatchman
<p>He doesn't, that's what His Word says. A repentant person, a person asking forgiveness of their sins, a person who yeilds to Jesus as their LORD and Savior, will in fact, be heard. </p>
<p>But as to unrepentant and crying out to Him in a time of need without believing that He is their LORD and Savior. No. The Bible no where discloses that will happen. </p>
<p>Once we believe upon Him and follow Him and His commands, we wear His righteousness, not our own. We allow the Holy Spirit to…</p>
<p>He doesn't, that's what His Word says. A repentant person, a person asking forgiveness of their sins, a person who yeilds to Jesus as their LORD and Savior, will in fact, be heard. </p>
<p>But as to unrepentant and crying out to Him in a time of need without believing that He is their LORD and Savior. No. The Bible no where discloses that will happen. </p>
<p>Once we believe upon Him and follow Him and His commands, we wear His righteousness, not our own. We allow the Holy Spirit to come into our lives and lead us, we are no longer sinners. There is no such thing as a carnal Christian, nor a Christian sinner. </p>
<p>BTW, I don't believe in Calvinism either.....but not going there right now. </p>
<p>The most important thing is build on the Foundation that is in Christ. </p> Amen LT. tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2017-08-15:1383940:Comment:17398122017-08-15T03:19:54.910Zthewatchmanhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/puritanwatchman
<p>Amen LT. </p>
<p>Amen LT. </p> Rob,
There is a great differ…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2017-08-14:1383940:Comment:17398072017-08-14T22:05:16.380ZLeonard Thttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/lrtraina
<p>Rob,</p>
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<p>There is a great difference between one being created in God's image, born of man by man, and one being a child of God, being born of God by God. </p>
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<p>There is a great difference between those who are spiritually dead and those who are spiritually alive. </p>
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<p>Regarding John 9:31 being simply words of man (religious leaders of the day) we find the following in the Word of God ... "Psa 66:18 If I had cherished sin in my heart, the Lord would not have…</p>
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<p>There is a great difference between one being created in God's image, born of man by man, and one being a child of God, being born of God by God. </p>
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<p>There is a great difference between those who are spiritually dead and those who are spiritually alive. </p>
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<p>Regarding John 9:31 being simply words of man (religious leaders of the day) we find the following in the Word of God ... "Psa 66:18 If I had cherished sin in my heart, the Lord would not have listened;"</p>
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<p>One could try to argue that this is simply the words of the Psalmist, but in so doing one would be arguing that the Scriptures are simply a word about God instead of the Word of God. What one believes regarding whether the Scriptures are a word about God or the Word of God is critical to understanding the Word of God, including how one will respond to the Scriptures.</p> There’s a lot scriptures that…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2017-08-14:1383940:Comment:17396602017-08-14T16:22:22.976ZJBhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/JoeBoyce
<p><font face="Calibri" size="3">There’s a lot scriptures that are hard to understand, mainly because of our lack of understanding of what God has done through His Son Jesus Christ for us. We have a hard time understanding that God has (already) “past tense” Blessed us with all spiritual blessings, in heavenly places through Christ. Eph.1, and has given to us all things that pertain unto <b><i><u>life</u></i></b> and <b><i><u>godliness</u></i></b>, through the <b><i><u>knowledge</u></i></b> of…</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="3">There’s a lot scriptures that are hard to understand, mainly because of our lack of understanding of what God has done through His Son Jesus Christ for us. We have a hard time understanding that God has (already) “past tense” Blessed us with all spiritual blessings, in heavenly places through Christ. Eph.1, and has given to us all things that pertain unto <b><i><u>life</u></i></b> and <b><i><u>godliness</u></i></b>, through the <b><i><u>knowledge</u></i></b> of Him who has called us unto glory and virtue. 2pet.1. I believe once we learn this, will be the end of a lot of our doubts, worries and fears of God’s willingness to grant the promises He gave to Abraham, and his Seed. We won’t be asking Him for things He has already promised, or given to us. 2Pet.1:___</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="3">Another reason is, double mindedness, confusion, doubt, and with a wavering faith, <b><i><u>let not that man think he shall receive anything of the Lord.</u></i></b> James 1.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">We look at Isa.59, and it says ” behold the Lord’s hand is not shortened that He cannot save, neither is His ear heavy that He cannot hear, but <b>your iniquities has separated between you and your God</b>, <b>and your sins have hid His face from you; that He will not hear</b>. Then we look at Ro.4:8 that tells us that “blessed is the man to whom <b>the Lord will not impute sin</b>.” </font></font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="3">We condemn ourselves, “based on the law” and our conscience is defiled, and we can’t have faith when we approach God, and we think He is not going to answer our prayers, based on our performances.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="3">There is a lot more can be said along these lines, but I must get to work. Lord Bless. JB</font></p>
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