Judgment of the Prosperity Gospel - All About GOD2024-03-29T13:39:40Zhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/forum/topics/judgment-of-the-prosperity?feed=yes&xn_auth=noYou are so right, Michelle. C…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2010-08-28:1383940:Comment:7203692010-08-28T22:43:42.873ZCESAR HUSMILLOhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/CESARHUSMILLO
You are so right, Michelle. Christians are being blinded by the anti-Christ, which is "secular materialism". True disciples of Jesus can discern what is the truth.<br />
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While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. Mathew 17:5
You are so right, Michelle. Christians are being blinded by the anti-Christ, which is "secular materialism". True disciples of Jesus can discern what is the truth.<br />
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While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. Mathew 17:5 As Always , good word michell…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2010-08-16:1383940:Comment:7069002010-08-16T08:38:33.726ZGod's Rockerhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/GodsRockerKermi
As Always , good word michelle ! oral roberts was teaching this seed faith sort of prosperity teaching and i'd been told my alot of folks it was an innacurate doctrine .. whens the church gonna get back to jesus! serving him and winning souls . I've heard some of these prosperity preachers go as far as to prophiside to me saying on such n such a date i'm receiving a check blah blah blah .... guess what ??? no check came on that day ... im sure God dose bless some with money but that only…
As Always , good word michelle ! oral roberts was teaching this seed faith sort of prosperity teaching and i'd been told my alot of folks it was an innacurate doctrine .. whens the church gonna get back to jesus! serving him and winning souls . I've heard some of these prosperity preachers go as far as to prophiside to me saying on such n such a date i'm receiving a check blah blah blah .... guess what ??? no check came on that day ... im sure God dose bless some with money but that only because he knows those people need it and will be faithful and good with it . that has nothing to do with propserity teaching though. Thats simply God blessing one of his children that desperatley needs it . The bad part about this prosperity teaching is it leads some Christians to think as soon as you get saved, Gods going to give you a big house and a fancy car etc etc .... that's what makes it wrong. in some cases I'm sure its even lead to some falling away from the faith . Hey Joe. I have always been a…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2010-08-16:1383940:Comment:7066502010-08-16T04:53:11.818Zforgivenhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/RobertMacFarland
Hey Joe. I have always been amazed that more than 2000 years ago, John and Jesus told us that Kingdom of Heaven is upon us..is nigh (now)...but it seems that everyone is still waiting for it to get here.<br />
Luke 4:18-21 (King James Version)<br />
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,<br />
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Hey Joe. I have always been amazed that more than 2000 years ago, John and Jesus told us that Kingdom of Heaven is upon us..is nigh (now)...but it seems that everyone is still waiting for it to get here.<br />
Luke 4:18-21 (King James Version)<br />
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,<br />
To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.<br />
And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.<br />
And he began to say unto them, <b>This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.</b>Matthew 3:2 (King James Version)<br />
And saying, Repent ye: for the <b>kingdom of heaven is at hand.</b> The Kingdom of God cometh not…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2010-08-16:1383940:Comment:7065952010-08-16T04:23:41.595ZJBhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/JoeBoyce
The Kingdom of God cometh not by obversavation, so where is it now, and when did it come?<br />
Is not His will being done on earth even now? Just wondering how the rest look at this.
The Kingdom of God cometh not by obversavation, so where is it now, and when did it come?<br />
Is not His will being done on earth even now? Just wondering how the rest look at this. The prosperity gospel origina…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2010-08-15:1383940:Comment:7062542010-08-15T20:43:23.195ZStephen Kinghttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/StephenGitauKingori
The prosperity gospel originates from man's heart. Instead of faith, lust for possessions is taught. All things belong to us, but there is a way of acquiring them. It is written ' But seek first His Kingdom and His righteousness and all these things will be given to you as well.'(niv) The thing Adam lost on that fateful day was life as it is written 'For when you eat of it you will surely die' (niv).<br />
Now, Our Lord Jesus, The Way, brought us life. And the progression that ends with life begins…
The prosperity gospel originates from man's heart. Instead of faith, lust for possessions is taught. All things belong to us, but there is a way of acquiring them. It is written ' But seek first His Kingdom and His righteousness and all these things will be given to you as well.'(niv) The thing Adam lost on that fateful day was life as it is written 'For when you eat of it you will surely die' (niv).<br />
Now, Our Lord Jesus, The Way, brought us life. And the progression that ends with life begins with obedience leading to righteousness, which in turn leads to holiness and the result is eternal life.(Rom6:16,19,22.niv) Riches are secondary.....in any case ..whoever heard of poor kings? For it is written, 'If you obey my commandments I will make you a Kingdom of Priests'.<br />
Anyway the law being used to gain prosperity is on the verge of becoming obsolete, 'for in just a very little while,He who is coming will come and will not delay' and when the priesthood changes, then there is going to be a change of the law.<br />
The next major event about the Church is; 'entering the promise, or revelation of the sons, or coming of the Kingdom of God or entering the Sabbath'. The priesthood shifts to Judah from Levi and so the law of 'seed,time and harvest' (Gen 8:22) changes to 'acquisition through promise' (2nd Cor 1:20, Gal 3:22) for then it shall 'be done on earth as it is in heaven.' Haggai saw it. It's the next event. The redemption of our bodies, for that is the reason we were saved. It is the time of atonement for us. There is a lot to it. BLESS THE NAME OF THE LORD.<br />
For the Church it shall be like the millennium for Israel only that He, Jesus will be revealed in us. Yes.. That's it. Thanks LT. ;…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2010-08-11:1383940:Comment:7029422010-08-11T21:42:30.768ZCarlahttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/Carla
Yes.. That's it. Thanks LT. ;-)
Yes.. That's it. Thanks LT. ;-) Carla,
The verse you are loo…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2010-08-11:1383940:Comment:7029302010-08-11T21:14:54.991ZLeonard Thttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/lrtraina
Carla,<br />
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The verse you are looking for I believe is 1 Corinthians 9:19-23:<br />
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1CO 9:19 Though I am free and belong to no man, I make myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God's law but am under Christ's…
Carla,<br />
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The verse you are looking for I believe is 1 Corinthians 9:19-23:<br />
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1CO 9:19 Though I am free and belong to no man, I make myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God's law but am under Christ's law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some. 23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.<br />
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Lord Bless,<br />
LT Hi Michelle,
These words in…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2010-08-11:1383940:Comment:7028652010-08-11T18:28:46.772ZCarlahttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/Carla
Hi Michelle,<br />
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These words in your initial post really stood out for me<br />
<b>Living under God's blessing is NOT the same as the prosperity gospel that is being taught in today's world.</b> To that I say a big AMEN!<br />
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I was studying this scripture yesterday.. Luke 16:1-13<br />
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Parable of the shrewd Manager<br />
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Luk 16:1 Now He was also saying to the disciples, "There was a rich man who had a manager, and this manager was [fn] reported to him as squandering his possessions.<br />
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Luk 16:2 "And he called him and…
Hi Michelle,<br />
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These words in your initial post really stood out for me<br />
<b>Living under God's blessing is NOT the same as the prosperity gospel that is being taught in today's world.</b> To that I say a big AMEN!<br />
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I was studying this scripture yesterday.. Luke 16:1-13<br />
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Parable of the shrewd Manager<br />
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Luk 16:1 Now He was also saying to the disciples, "There was a rich man who had a manager, and this manager was [fn] reported to him as squandering his possessions.<br />
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Luk 16:2 "And he called him and said to him, 'What is this I hear about you? Give an accounting of your management, for you can no longer be manager.'<br />
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Luk 16:3 "The manager said to himself, 'What shall I do, since my [fn] master is taking the management away from me? I am not strong enough to dig; I am ashamed to beg.<br />
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Luk 16:4 'I know what I shall do, so that when I am removed from the management people will welcome me into their homes.'<br />
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Luk 16:5 "And he summoned each one of his [fn] master's debtors, and he began saying to the first, 'How much do you owe my master?'<br />
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Luk 16:6 "And he said, 'A hundred [fn] measures of oil.' And he said to him, 'Take your bill, and sit down quickly and write fifty.'<br />
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Luk 16:7 "Then he said to another, 'And how much do you owe?' And he said, 'A hundred [fn] measures of wheat.' He said to him, 'Take your bill, and write eighty.'<br />
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Luk 16:8 "And his [fn] master praised the unrighteous manager because he had acted shrewdly; for the sons of this age are more shrewd in relation to their own [fn] kind than the sons of light.<br />
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<i>Luk 16:9 "And I say to you, make friends for yourselves by means of the [fn] wealth of unrighteousness, so that when it fails, they will receive you into the eternal dwellings.</i><br />
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Luk 16:10 "He who is faithful in a very little thing is faithful also in much; and he who is unrighteous in a very little thing is unrighteous also in much.<br />
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Luk 16:11 "Therefore if you have not been faithful in the use of unrighteous [fn] wealth, who will entrust the true riches to you?<br />
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Luk 16:12 "And if you have not been faithful in the use of that which is another's, who will give you that which is your own?<br />
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Luk 16:13 "No [fn] servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and [fn] wealth."<br />
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Jesus was commending the shrewd manager... Verse 9 gives us the lesson:<br />
<b>Luk 16:9 "And I say to you, <u>make friends for yourselves by means of the [fn] wealth of unrighteousness</u>, <i>so that when it fails,</i> <i>they will receive you into the eternal dwellings</i>.</b><br />
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so what are the Eternal Dwellings? The Eternal Dwellings are where we go when we die. As we preach the gospel, and people receive Jesus as Savior because of what we have told them about Jesus, those people will greet us when we die if they have died before us.<br />
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Some interesting points came up....<br />
First of all, people of the world tend to know how to manage their money and possessions more shrewdly than children of the light.... (verse 8)<br />
Secondly, we can use material things of this world to win people to the Lord by means of material wealth...and when their wealth fails them (as it always does) we let them know that true riches can only be found in Christ--we'll meet them in the Eternal Dwellings. (verse 9)<br />
Thirdly, if we handle what-ever wealth God blesses us with well, than non-believers will respect that and be more apt to listen to what we have to say... even though we may have wealth...we don't rely on our possessions because they only bring disappointment..and they break easily and will become worthless....we show this by our example..that our joy does not come from what we have, but from who we are in Christ. We are content with much or with little.<br />
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Verses 10-12---he that is faithful in little things will be faithful in larger things...but dishonest in little things, won't be honest with greater responsibilities... If we are faithful with the unrighteous mammon <i>(mammon is hebrew for all the world offers materially</i>) we will be faithful with the true riches (The Kingdom of God)<br />
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I believe the Lord wants us to handle our money well, and HE wants us to know how to prepare for our futures.. Yes God does provide all our needs..but our loving Father wants us to take some initiative AND distribute our surplus to the poor.<br />
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<u>Some points to consider:</u><br />
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The physical is a training area as to how we handle the spiritual as well.<br />
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If a non-believer respects how we handle our finances, they are more likely to listen to the Spiritual Wealth that we as believers can share.<br />
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True wealth is the message of Jesus---this is ultimately where we want all believers to rest in the truth.<br />
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If the unbeliever we are preaching to accepts the message of Jesus they will be part of the company who will greet you when you die.<br />
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Believers can use material things of this world to win friends for the Lord.<br />
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The issue is 'who are we serving'? What's our inner motivation? Are we subservient to money or to the Lord? If we are subservient to the Lord we will know how to deal with our things.<br />
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proverbs 10:22<br />
Pro 10:22 The blessing of the LORD makes a person rich, and he adds no sorrow with it.<br />
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I'm also trying to find in scripture where Paul says that he is all things to all people... sigh..where is that verse?<br />
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some thoughts to ponder...<br />
Blessings, Carla What an Awesome God we serve,…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2010-08-10:1383940:Comment:7010742010-08-10T09:34:54.428ZProphethttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/Prophet
What an Awesome God we serve, just blows me away. And every day there are new surprises, revelations and blessings.<br />
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You to Bro David, with your bible knowledge.......... always straight down the line as it should be<br />
Luv yah too
What an Awesome God we serve, just blows me away. And every day there are new surprises, revelations and blessings.<br />
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You to Bro David, with your bible knowledge.......... always straight down the line as it should be<br />
Luv yah too Amen Prophet. Well said.
Lov…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2010-08-10:1383940:Comment:7010362010-08-10T08:53:30.302ZDavid Velasquezhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/DavidVelasquez616
Amen Prophet. Well said.<br />
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Love you
Amen Prophet. Well said.<br />
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Love you