How to love God when he created Hell. - All About GOD2024-03-28T10:59:06Zhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/forum/topics/how-to-love-god-when-he-created-hell?id=1383940%3ATopic%3A1771872&%3Bpage=3&%3Bfeed=yes&%3Bxn_auth=no&feed=yes&xn_auth=no
Thanks LT.
I thought I woul…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-11-25:1383940:Comment:17869372019-11-25T18:35:34.105ZJBhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/JoeBoyce
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<p><strong>Thanks LT.</strong></p>
<p>I thought I would post this, Just in case there were some that would doubt their security in Christ.</p>
<p><strong>Hebrews 10:38-39 (KJV)</strong> <br></br> <sup>38.</sup> <strong>Now the just shall live by faith</strong>: but if <em>any man</em> draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. <br></br> <sup>39.</sup> <strong>But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the…</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Thanks LT.</strong></p>
<p>I thought I would post this, Just in case there were some that would doubt their security in Christ.</p>
<p><strong>Hebrews 10:38-39 (KJV)</strong> <br/> <sup>38.</sup> <strong>Now the just shall live by faith</strong>: but if <em>any man</em> draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. <br/> <sup>39.</sup> <strong>But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.</strong></p>
<p><strong>2 Corinthians 1:20-22 (KJV)</strong> <br/> <sup>20.</sup> For all the promises of God in him <em>are</em> yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us. <br/> <sup>21.</sup> Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, <em>is</em> God; <br/> <sup>22.</sup> Who hath also <strong>sealed</strong> us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.</p>
<p><strong>Ephesians 1:12-14 (KJV)</strong> <br/> <sup>12.</sup> That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. <br/> <sup>13.</sup> In whom ye also <em>trusted</em>, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">after that ye believed,</span></strong> ye were <strong>sealed</strong> with that Holy Spirit of promise, <br/> <sup>14.</sup> Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.</p>
<p><strong>Ephesians 4:29-31 (KJV)</strong> <br/> <sup>29.</sup> Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. <br/> <sup>30.</sup> And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are <strong>sealed</strong> unto the day of redemption. <br/> <sup>31.</sup> Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:</p>
<p><strong>2 Timothy 2:19 (KJV)</strong> <br/> <sup>19.</sup> Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this <strong>seal</strong>, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let everyone that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.</p>
<p>JB</p> I will add something here tha…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-11-20:1383940:Comment:17865832019-11-20T23:24:45.155ZLeonard Thttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/lrtraina
<p>I will add something here that I believe is a misconception:</p>
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<p>We do not step out of line in order to burn, we are born into a fallen world deserving separation from God. It is God who calls us out of darkness and offers to us the opportunity to be born into the light. We do not start good and fear becoming lost. We start lost with the gift of God being offered to us that we might be born again, transformed from one created of God into a child of God, children of the light.</p>
<p>I will add something here that I believe is a misconception:</p>
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<p>We do not step out of line in order to burn, we are born into a fallen world deserving separation from God. It is God who calls us out of darkness and offers to us the opportunity to be born into the light. We do not start good and fear becoming lost. We start lost with the gift of God being offered to us that we might be born again, transformed from one created of God into a child of God, children of the light.</p> One never loves God for what…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-11-20:1383940:Comment:17866642019-11-20T23:07:56.725ZLeonard Thttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/lrtraina
<p>One never loves God for what he does or does not do, nor did or did not do. One loves God for who He is. Our love for God cannot be conditional, but must be a response to who He is through the enlightenment and empowerment of Holy Spirit.</p>
<p>One never loves God for what he does or does not do, nor did or did not do. One loves God for who He is. Our love for God cannot be conditional, but must be a response to who He is through the enlightenment and empowerment of Holy Spirit.</p> Thanks Carla, I like to keep…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-01-23:1383940:Comment:17734112019-01-23T18:36:41.706ZJBhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/JoeBoyce
<p>Thanks Carla, I like to keep things relative simple.</p>
<p>Thanks Carla, I like to keep things relative simple.</p> am following and being helped…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-01-21:1383940:Comment:17730852019-01-21T13:34:36.396Zchristina lonjezo timverehttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/christinalonjezotimvere
<p>am following and being helped with the comments, verses here and i hope Brandon is also putting himself in aposition to see how it works, and one thing which brings fear is the denial of the cross, as Carla stated in one of the comments that for a man to be saved needs to <strong>declare openly that Jesus is your saviour and believe that God raised Him from the dead (read Romans). Brandon </strong>Jesus is the only chance we have of which many people have not yet discovered. Family, I always…</p>
<p>am following and being helped with the comments, verses here and i hope Brandon is also putting himself in aposition to see how it works, and one thing which brings fear is the denial of the cross, as Carla stated in one of the comments that for a man to be saved needs to <strong>declare openly that Jesus is your saviour and believe that God raised Him from the dead (read Romans). Brandon </strong>Jesus is the only chance we have of which many people have not yet discovered. Family, I always think of those who lived a sinful life like I used to live, pretending to be christians by going to church but keep on sinning but died before knowing the truth. oh my God! Brandon this is the only time we have on earth to totally submit your (our) lives to Christ Jesus as our saviour for Him only removes fear and gives total happiness. as for me, All About God .has really helped my life. Amen . </p> Brandon,
I know your comment…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-01-19:1383940:Comment:17729302019-01-19T03:27:41.660ZCarlahttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/CarlaButler777
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Brandon,</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I know your comment isn't directed towards me, and I'm sure JB will respond, but I'm wondering what it is that you're not able to believe? </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Do you believe that you've sinned against God?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Do you believe that without Jesus you will be separated from Him in Eternity? </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Do…</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Brandon,</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I know your comment isn't directed towards me, and I'm sure JB will respond, but I'm wondering what it is that you're not able to believe? </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Do you believe that you've sinned against God?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Do you believe that without Jesus you will be separated from Him in Eternity? </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Do you believe that Jesus died and rose again back to life to defeat sin and death for you? </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Do you believe that his suffering, death and resurrection is enough to save you? </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">f the answer is yes to these questions than you are saved. You're not saved by the things you do or by your feelings. You're saved because you believe and trust Him. </span> <span style="font-size: 12pt;">We are saved by Grace thru faith, not because we 'feel' saved, but because we believe God's word that we are saved. Our feelings are unreliable at best...like a rollercoaster....they are up and down all over the place based on our circumstances, emotions, stresses in our lives etc... </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The bible says it like this in Romans 10:</span></p>
<p class="first-line-none" style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; color: #000000; text-transform: none; line-height: 24px; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; box-sizing: border-box; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: #ffffff; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><span class="text Rom-10-5" style="box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;"><sup class="versenum" style="top: 0px; line-height: 22px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; vertical-align: top; xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box;">5 </sup>For Moses writes that the law’s way of making a person right with God requires obedience to all of its commands.<sup class="footnote" style="top: 0px; line-height: 22px; font-size: 0.62em; vertical-align: top; xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box;">[<a title="See footnote c" style="background: none; color: #b34b2c; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: top; cursor: pointer; box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+10&version=NLT#fen-NLT-28155c">c</a>]</sup></span><span> </span><span class="text Rom-10-6" id="en-NLT-28156" style="box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;"><sup class="versenum" style="top: 0px; line-height: 22px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; vertical-align: top; xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box;">6 </sup>But faith’s way of getting right with God says, “Don’t say in your heart, ‘Who will go up to heaven?’ (to bring Christ down to earth).</span><span> </span><span class="text Rom-10-7" id="en-NLT-28157" style="box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;"><sup class="versenum" style="top: 0px; line-height: 22px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; vertical-align: top; xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box;">7 </sup>And don’t say, ‘Who will go down to the place of the dead?’ (to bring Christ back to life again).”</span><span> </span><span class="text Rom-10-8" id="en-NLT-28158" style="box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;"><sup class="versenum" style="top: 0px; line-height: 22px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; vertical-align: top; xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box;">8 </sup>In fact, it says,</span></p>
<div class="poetry top-1" style="color: #000000; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; padding-left: 2.6em; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; margin-top: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: #ffffff; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><p class="line" style="margin: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 24px; text-indent: 0px; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;"><span class="text Rom-10-8" style="xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;">“The message is very close at hand;</span><br style="box-sizing: border-box;"/><span class="indent-1" style="box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;"><span class="indent-1-breaks" style="line-height: 0; font-family: monospace; font-size: 0.42em; box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;"> </span><span class="text Rom-10-8" style="xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;">it is on your lips and in your heart.”<sup class="footnote" style="top: 0px; line-height: 22px; font-size: 0.62em; vertical-align: top; xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box;">[<a title="See footnote d" style="background: none; color: #b34b2c; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: top; cursor: pointer; box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+10&version=NLT#fen-NLT-28158d">d</a>]</sup></span></span></p>
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<p class="first-line-none top-1" style="margin: 1em 0px 10px; color: #000000; text-transform: none; line-height: 24px; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; box-sizing: border-box; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: #ffffff; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><span class="text Rom-10-8" style="box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;">And that message is the very message about faith that we preach:</span><span> </span><span class="text Rom-10-9" id="en-NLT-28159" style="box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;"><sup class="versenum" style="top: 0px; line-height: 22px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; vertical-align: top; xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box;">9 </sup>If you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.</span><span> </span><span class="text Rom-10-10" id="en-NLT-28160" style="box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;"><sup class="versenum" style="top: 0px; line-height: 22px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; vertical-align: top; xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box;">10 </sup>For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by openly declaring your faith that you are saved.</span><span> </span><span class="text Rom-10-11" id="en-NLT-28161" style="box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;"><sup class="versenum" style="top: 0px; line-height: 22px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; vertical-align: top; xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box;">11 </sup>As the Scriptures tell us, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be disgraced.”<sup class="footnote" style="top: 0px; line-height: 22px; font-size: 0.62em; vertical-align: top; xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box;">[<a title="See footnote e" style="background: none; color: #b34b2c; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: top; cursor: pointer; box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+10&version=NLT#fen-NLT-28161e">e</a>]</sup></span><span> </span><span class="text Rom-10-12" id="en-NLT-28162" style="box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;"><sup class="versenum" style="top: 0px; line-height: 22px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; vertical-align: top; xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box;">12 </sup>Jew and Gentile<sup class="footnote" style="top: 0px; line-height: 22px; font-size: 0.62em; vertical-align: top; xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box;">[<a title="See footnote f" style="background: none; color: #b34b2c; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: top; cursor: pointer; box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+10&version=NLT#fen-NLT-28162f">f</a>]</sup><span> </span>are the same in this respect. They have the same Lord, who gives generously to all who call on him.</span><span> </span><span class="text Rom-10-13" id="en-NLT-28163" style="box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;"><sup class="versenum" style="top: 0px; line-height: 22px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; vertical-align: top; xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box;">13 </sup>For “Everyone who calls on the name of the<span> </span><span class="small-caps" style="font-variant: small-caps; box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;">Lord</span><span> </span>will be saved.”<sup class="footnote" style="top: 0px; line-height: 22px; font-size: 0.62em; vertical-align: top; xg-p: relative; box-sizing: border-box;">[<a title="See footnote g" style="background: none; color: #b34b2c; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: top; cursor: pointer; box-sizing: border-box; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+10&version=NLT#fen-NLT-28163g">g</a>]</sup></span></p>
<p class="first-line-none top-1" style="margin: 1em 0px 10px; color: #000000; text-transform: none; line-height: 24px; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; box-sizing: border-box; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: #ffffff; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">God has not left you. His word says that He will never leave us or forsake us. It also says that if we seek Him with our whole hearts we will find Him.</p>
<p class="first-line-none top-1" style="margin: 1em 0px 10px; color: #000000; text-transform: none; line-height: 24px; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; box-sizing: border-box; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: #ffffff; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">How's your prayer life? Are you talking to Him? What are your study habits like?... in other words, how much time are you spending with Him?</p>
<p class="first-line-none top-1" style="margin: 1em 0px 10px; color: #000000; text-transform: none; line-height: 24px; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; box-sizing: border-box; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: #ffffff; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">The more we pray and see His answers to our prayers the more we are inviting Him in to intervene in our lives. As we see Him working in our lives our faith grows and we want to talk to Him more and more. Pretty soon it becomes a continual dialogue so that prayer becomes so natural that it's automatic even while we're having conversations with other people. It's a continual abiding and ongoing communion. Do you need help praying? </p>
<p class="first-line-none top-1" style="margin: 1em 0px 10px; color: #000000; text-transform: none; line-height: 24px; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; box-sizing: border-box; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: #ffffff; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">Blessings, Carla</p>
<p class="first-line-none top-1" style="margin: 1em 0px 10px; color: #000000; text-transform: none; line-height: 24px; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; box-sizing: border-box; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: #ffffff; -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"></p> This is very profound. Thank…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-01-19:1383940:Comment:17728622019-01-19T02:50:30.366ZBrandonhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/Brandon806
<p>This is very profound. Thank you!</p>
<p>This is very profound. Thank you!</p> I guess I'm in trouble then.…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-01-19:1383940:Comment:17728612019-01-19T02:49:55.813ZBrandonhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/Brandon806
<p>I guess I'm in trouble then. It's like I'm not able to believe, even though I want to. Honestly, I feel like I'm in a trap. Must be nice to be able to really love God and know you are forgiven. No one understands what I'm going through and God won't help me, even though he can see me. If I came to God, it wouldn't be out of love because I'm not able to love...it's just not there. How fortunate you are that you can be reached.</p>
<p>I guess I'm in trouble then. It's like I'm not able to believe, even though I want to. Honestly, I feel like I'm in a trap. Must be nice to be able to really love God and know you are forgiven. No one understands what I'm going through and God won't help me, even though he can see me. If I came to God, it wouldn't be out of love because I'm not able to love...it's just not there. How fortunate you are that you can be reached.</p> Hey JB,
I really like the wa…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-01-18:1383940:Comment:17728602019-01-18T21:42:17.014ZCarlahttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/CarlaButler777
<p>Hey JB,</p>
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<p>I really like the way you explained it. </p>
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<p>Blessings, Carla</p>
<p>Hey JB,</p>
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<p>I really like the way you explained it. </p>
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<p>Blessings, Carla</p> Hello Carla, Though I like Ma…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2019-01-18:1383940:Comment:17730272019-01-18T18:50:22.979ZJBhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/JoeBoyce
<p>Hello Carla, Though I like MacArthur, I have somewhat of a disagreement with his analogy of a judge.</p>
<p>We know the wages of sin is death, Ro.6:23, Though Jesus has born all of our trespasses, yet there are consequences for our sins, though sounds like a contradiction, when he says that He is not imputing our trespasses against us. Ro.4:6. But let us consider the man that has committed murder, he finds God while incarcerated, still he goes to the electric chair as a Christian. I believe…</p>
<p>Hello Carla, Though I like MacArthur, I have somewhat of a disagreement with his analogy of a judge.</p>
<p>We know the wages of sin is death, Ro.6:23, Though Jesus has born all of our trespasses, yet there are consequences for our sins, though sounds like a contradiction, when he says that He is not imputing our trespasses against us. Ro.4:6. But let us consider the man that has committed murder, he finds God while incarcerated, still he goes to the electric chair as a Christian. I believe he will go to heaven if he has confessed Christ as his savior, then he has been forgiven and escape the second death, <strong><em><u>Rev.2:11, Rev.20:6, Rev.20:14, Rev.21:8</u></em></strong> but he will suffer the consequences of his actions here on earth.</p>
<p>Now lets take the person that has committed a crime that is not punishable by death, lets say running a stop sign and getting caught, he goes before the judge, and he notices that the judge is a friend and he is excited, because he thinks he will be exonerated, however the judge being <strong><u>a just judge</u></strong> is obligated to pass judgement for the crime that has been committed, and the judge ask him if he is guilty, and of course he admits that he is guilty, thinking he will be freed, but the judge says that will be $150.00. But the judge steps down, takes off his robe, takes out his billfold and says to the clerk, here I will pay his fine he is one of mine.</p>
<p>This is just the way I perceive what God has done for us through Jesus Christ. Not to be controversial.</p>
<p>Though your response is great. Blessings</p>
<p>JB</p>