How does one become truly saved? what is the legal process? - All About GOD2024-03-28T17:27:39Zhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/forum/topics/how-does-one-become-truly-saved-what-is-the-legal-process?commentId=1383940%3AComment%3A1720165&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAlso, Matthew 10:32 is being…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2016-12-14:1383940:Comment:17204472016-12-14T23:53:24.313ZTammyhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/TammyHenson
<p>Also, Matthew 10:32 is being taken out of context in this instance. Afterthought.....</p>
<p>Also, Matthew 10:32 is being taken out of context in this instance. Afterthought.....</p> Your salvation is not depende…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2016-12-14:1383940:Comment:17204452016-12-14T23:25:33.966ZLeonard Thttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/lrtraina
<p>Your salvation is not dependent on your confession as you word it, but rather because you are born again you will desire to confess Him before others. This is the same old argument. One does not do in order to be saved, one does because they are saved ... If you cannot confess Him from a regenerated heart you are not saved ... </p>
<p>Your salvation is not dependent on your confession as you word it, but rather because you are born again you will desire to confess Him before others. This is the same old argument. One does not do in order to be saved, one does because they are saved ... If you cannot confess Him from a regenerated heart you are not saved ... </p> OK. I'll leave you with that.…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2016-12-13:1383940:Comment:17201652016-12-13T21:55:53.978ZTammyhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/TammyHenson
<p>OK. I'll leave you with that. Some enjoy this type of involvement but for me, it doesn't float my boat. Have a blessed day.</p>
<p>OK. I'll leave you with that. Some enjoy this type of involvement but for me, it doesn't float my boat. Have a blessed day.</p> I have several friends who ar…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2016-12-13:1383940:Comment:17203552016-12-13T21:43:36.482ZStephanie Tunghttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/StephanieTung
<p>I have several friends who are deaf/mute. Their mouth (method of communication) is their hands.</p>
<p>Nothing we do can add to what Christ has done. Him shedding His Blood on the Cross is the only thing that can cleanse our sins. But you are wrong that we don't have to do anything ourselves to receive the benefit of that sacrifice. We must obey Him. We must do the acts that He says lead to salvation. There are several of them. Some people only accept a couple of them, some don't…</p>
<p>I have several friends who are deaf/mute. Their mouth (method of communication) is their hands.</p>
<p>Nothing we do can add to what Christ has done. Him shedding His Blood on the Cross is the only thing that can cleanse our sins. But you are wrong that we don't have to do anything ourselves to receive the benefit of that sacrifice. We must obey Him. We must do the acts that He says lead to salvation. There are several of them. Some people only accept a couple of them, some don't accept that there are any. But we must hear the Word, believe that it is the truth, confess that Jesus is the Christ, repent of our sins, and be baptized for the remission of our sins in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.</p>
<p></p> It's the acceptance that you'…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2016-12-13:1383940:Comment:17201632016-12-13T21:29:58.506ZTammyhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/TammyHenson
<p>It's the acceptance that you're speaking of, not speaking it. A deaf person would be in a bad place in this case. We can add NOTHING to our salvation. To think we can diminishes His grace & can swell the head of man. </p>
<p>It's the acceptance that you're speaking of, not speaking it. A deaf person would be in a bad place in this case. We can add NOTHING to our salvation. To think we can diminishes His grace & can swell the head of man. </p> What does a mute person do th…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2016-12-13:1383940:Comment:17201612016-12-13T21:18:39.250ZTammyhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/TammyHenson
<p>What does a mute person do then?</p>
<p>What does a mute person do then?</p> If it were the case that we d…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2016-12-13:1383940:Comment:17203242016-12-13T21:16:44.221ZStephanie Tunghttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/StephanieTung
<p>If it were the case that we did not need to do anything to be saved, then everyone would be saved. Christ came to die for the sins of everyone (John 1:29, John 3:16, 1 Tim 4:10, 1 John 2:2). That being the case, there must be something that some do that makes them saved that other people do not do which leaves them lost. We know this because at Judgement Christ will separate the sheep from the goats, and the sheep will enter Heaven while the goats will go to Hell.</p>
<p>I agree with you…</p>
<p>If it were the case that we did not need to do anything to be saved, then everyone would be saved. Christ came to die for the sins of everyone (John 1:29, John 3:16, 1 Tim 4:10, 1 John 2:2). That being the case, there must be something that some do that makes them saved that other people do not do which leaves them lost. We know this because at Judgement Christ will separate the sheep from the goats, and the sheep will enter Heaven while the goats will go to Hell.</p>
<p>I agree with you that confessing Christ must be a lifelong action. It is not a one time thing. But confessing Him must come before salvation because we read in Rom 10:10 that with the mouth confession is made <strong>unto</strong> salvation. This means that confession (at least the first time) must come before salvation is attained.</p> He does not need us to confes…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2016-12-13:1383940:Comment:17204192016-12-13T19:52:29.072ZTammyhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/TammyHenson
<p>He does not need us to confess 'in order' to be saved was the statement. Salvation isn't about anything we do. It's what Christ has done for us. LT continues to say once we are saved, we will Then confess it or in his words 'testify' to others. He wasn't going against these Scriptures but was saying that you don't have to confess to anyone to be saved. Also Verse 33 of Matthew 10 says if you deny Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven. As we know, Peter denied…</p>
<p>He does not need us to confess 'in order' to be saved was the statement. Salvation isn't about anything we do. It's what Christ has done for us. LT continues to say once we are saved, we will Then confess it or in his words 'testify' to others. He wasn't going against these Scriptures but was saying that you don't have to confess to anyone to be saved. Also Verse 33 of Matthew 10 says if you deny Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven. As we know, Peter denied Christ but this one time denial didn't cast him from the Savior's presence so it isn't a one-time thing. It's a life living presence. Do you confess Him in your daily living? Do you share Him with others? It's a lifestyle because we also know that many will say to Him Lord Lord & He will say I knew you not. So it's not this 'confession' per say. It's the lifestyle more so. </p> LT, how then do you explain t…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2016-12-13:1383940:Comment:17204072016-12-13T14:55:37.778ZStephanie Tunghttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/StephanieTung
<p>LT, how then do you explain the instruction in Matt 10:32 and Luke 12:8? We are commanded to confess our belief in Jesus before others. If we do not, He will not claim us before the Father. That, to me, means that we will not be saved if we do not publicly profess our belief in Jesus as the Christ.</p>
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<p>LT, how then do you explain the instruction in Matt 10:32 and Luke 12:8? We are commanded to confess our belief in Jesus before others. If we do not, He will not claim us before the Father. That, to me, means that we will not be saved if we do not publicly profess our belief in Jesus as the Christ.</p>
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<p></p> I like what you've written.…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2016-03-11:1383940:Comment:16822282016-03-11T17:13:55.266ZAmandahttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/Godinmystorm
I like what you've written.<br></br>
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Yes, when someone is born again, it happens only when he or she is enlightened and guided by the Spirit of God. No one is saved just by knowing the facts of the gospel message and performing an outline of "steps". The spirit of the person is involved, not just the person's mind. The spirit of the person becomes involved only through Holy Spirit. It takes both to become born again--hearing the Word about Christ and Holy Spirit.<br></br>
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New birth can only…
I like what you've written.<br/>
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Yes, when someone is born again, it happens only when he or she is enlightened and guided by the Spirit of God. No one is saved just by knowing the facts of the gospel message and performing an outline of "steps". The spirit of the person is involved, not just the person's mind. The spirit of the person becomes involved only through Holy Spirit. It takes both to become born again--hearing the Word about Christ and Holy Spirit.<br/>
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New birth can only come to those who are being enlightened and whose spirits are being moved by Holy Spirit.<br/>
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The gospel of Christ is found in 1 Cor. 15:3-4:<br/>
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3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures (NIV).<br/>
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As we look at those two verses we see:<br/>
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First, Christ died. Who was he? It’s important what we believe about Jesus. He is truly God and truly man. The deity of Christ is clearly stated in the first verse of John 1:1. Jesus claimed His own deity when He said, “Before Abraham was, I am” (John 8:58). Jesus is also man. He was born of the virgin Mary. Philippians 2:5-8 puts it this way:<br/>
5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:<br/>
6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,<br/>
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;<br/>
7 rather, he made himself nothing<br/>
by taking the very nature[b] of a servant,<br/>
being made in human likeness.<br/>
8 And being found in appearance as a man,<br/>
he humbled himself<br/>
by becoming obedient to death—<br/>
even death on a cross!<br/>
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Second, Christ died for our sins. People who are not saved are dead in their sins (see Ephesians 2:1). Romans 3:10 says, As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one” and Romans 3:23 says, “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.”<br/>
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To be saved one must see their own sin and not try to justify it but confess it. The word confess means “to agree with” and when we confess our sin to God we are saying, "God, you are right. I’m wrong. I have broken Your holy commandments. I have sinned. I am lost in my sins.”<br/>
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Third, Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures. One must believe that the Scriptures are the inspired Word of God since Christ died according to the Scriptures. If we don’t believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God, inerrant and infallible, then how could it be possible to believe that Christ died according to the Scriptures -- if some of them are in error or are fallible?<br/>
2 Timothy 3:16-17 says, All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. (NIV)<br/>
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Romans 5:8<br/>
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8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.<br/>
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Fourth, He was buried. Jesus died on the cross to pay the full penalty for our sins. Because of what He did by dying in our place, salvation is offered to us as a gift and is received by faith. Baptism, living a good, moral life, working for charity, or anything else can do nothing to save us from our sins. Jesus did it. He was our substitute. He was sinless and was a perfect sacrifice. He was our substitute in life, living completely sinless and keeping the whole law without erring, which is something that no person can do, and He was our substitute in death, where He suffered the wrath of God and took our Hell on the cross and died for us in our place. The wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23) and Jesus paid those wages for all who receive Him as Lord and Savior by faith.<br/>
Romans 3:28<br/>
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28 For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.<br/>
Ephesians 2:8-10<br/>
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8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.<br/>
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Last, He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures. Once again, it is important to believe that the Bible is infallible and inerrant and is the Word of God. Without the resurrection all is vain.<br/>
Romans 6:23<br/>
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23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in[a] Christ Jesus our Lord.<br/>
Eternal life is through Jesus Christ alone. And that is the Gospel. It is a gift.