Evolution - All About GOD2024-03-29T05:48:10Zhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/forum/topics/evolution?commentId=1383940%3AComment%3A1512207&feed=yes&xn_auth=noBut, one cannot get away from…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2013-11-04:1383940:Comment:15151682013-11-04T20:42:05.392ZLeonard Thttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/lrtraina
<p>But, one cannot get away from a simple fact ... one is a seeker of truth in truth and the other is a seeker of truth outside of truth ... the Word of God is truth. Those who seek truth in truth may ere, but they also have a hope of honing in on the truth, whereas those that seek truth outside of truth cannot ever find truth without a change in their understanding about the Word of God itself.</p>
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<p>You struggle to understand that when one rejects the Bible as the Word of God that…</p>
<p>But, one cannot get away from a simple fact ... one is a seeker of truth in truth and the other is a seeker of truth outside of truth ... the Word of God is truth. Those who seek truth in truth may ere, but they also have a hope of honing in on the truth, whereas those that seek truth outside of truth cannot ever find truth without a change in their understanding about the Word of God itself.</p>
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<p>You struggle to understand that when one rejects the Bible as the Word of God that there isn't much to really discuss from a biblical perspective. There really isn't much reason to discuss the subject as the two parties literally speak different languages. This site, and I, hold, to the Bible being the Word of God ... in that I am inflexible and unapologetic. I hold little regard for the theology of a liberal or progressive. I can respect the person as a human being and love them as Christ has instructed us, but what they have to say about God or His Word is pretty useless and without merit if they fail to understand that the Bible is the Word of God and not some word about God.</p>
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<p>Now, to be fair, there is a difference between one who is seeking truth and has yet to realize the Bible is God's Word and one who has rejected the Bible as God's Word, accepts it as merely as a word about God and then presents themselves as teachers.</p>
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<p>For clarity, I don't think a person who denies the Bible is God's Word is compromising. You have to believe it before you can compromise it.</p>
<p> </p> There's more than those 2 cam…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2013-11-04:1383940:Comment:15148992013-11-04T16:11:08.626ZGrazer #E2Hhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/V4VendettaFan
<p>There's more than those 2 camps and the traditional/orthodox camp don't exactly have clean hands when it comes to attacks.</p>
<p>Anyone who holds a different viewpoint is seen as compromising scripture, I think YEC's are abusing scripture and causing harm with it. They think the same about me. I don't think they mean to and I understand (to a point) why they're taking the stance they are but it doesn't hide the fact I think they are very badly wrong.</p>
<p>What's needed is a new way to…</p>
<p>There's more than those 2 camps and the traditional/orthodox camp don't exactly have clean hands when it comes to attacks.</p>
<p>Anyone who holds a different viewpoint is seen as compromising scripture, I think YEC's are abusing scripture and causing harm with it. They think the same about me. I don't think they mean to and I understand (to a point) why they're taking the stance they are but it doesn't hide the fact I think they are very badly wrong.</p>
<p>What's needed is a new way to have these discussions, this "trench warfare throwing bombs" style is just not helping anyone.</p> LT,
I appreciate this powerfu…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2013-11-03:1383940:Comment:15150172013-11-03T16:50:44.558ZColbyhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/ColbyChase
<p>LT,</p>
<p>I appreciate this powerful and insightful message, and I hope all will take it to heart as I have, because it speaks to something of great importance. Each of us is given different measures of faith and different spiritual gifts by the Holy Spirit, and we are saved from the moment we are reborn by the Holy Spirit and infused with God's saving grace. But we still have a long way to go to come to a fuller and deeper understanding of God's plan, as revealed in its entirety in the…</p>
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<p>I appreciate this powerful and insightful message, and I hope all will take it to heart as I have, because it speaks to something of great importance. Each of us is given different measures of faith and different spiritual gifts by the Holy Spirit, and we are saved from the moment we are reborn by the Holy Spirit and infused with God's saving grace. But we still have a long way to go to come to a fuller and deeper understanding of God's plan, as revealed in its entirety in the Holy Scriptures. At first, we are like infants dependent on milk, but with time, we are capable of eating solid food. So it is with our faith journey. </p>
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<p>Your message is spot on when you warn of the "slippery slope" that results when we selectively choose which parts of the Bible to believe and follow. The Bible is not a buffet line where you can take a little of this, a lot of that, and skip the things you don't like. There are biblical teachings that make all of us uncomfortable for one reason or another, not the least of which is that they are seemingly out of step with and fly in the face of our materialistic and "anything goes" postmodern culture. It is a slippery slope, indeed, or like skating on thin ice, when we start imposing our self-serving interpretation on God's Word. It's a fundamental corruption of the reformers' call for "Sola Scriptura" (the Bible alone as our standard) into "Solo Scripture" (the Bible as I choose to interpret it).</p>
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<p>The biggest issue causing division within the Church today, I would add, is over how we choose to see and understand the Bible. Those in the traditional/orthodox camp hold to the view that the Bible is the Word of God written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit and refuse to compromise its teachings in the face of challenges by the culture. They are under attack by those in the postmodern camp who believe the Bible is, as you say, "a word about God," little more than a collection fairy tales (albeit with a nice moral) written by ancient men that have little relevance to us today.</p>
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<p>Colby</p> Jenelle
For me, I see all of…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2013-11-03:1383940:Comment:15147562013-11-03T01:53:01.584Za servant (Chris)http://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/ChristopherKarlMeisenbacher
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<p>For me, I see all of these kind of things in the same light, the "testing of our Faith." <em>12 Dear friends, don’t be surprised when the fiery ordeal comes among you to test you as if something unusual were happening to you.ab 13 Instead, rejoice as you share in the sufferings of the Messiah,ac so that you may also rejoice with great joy at the revelation of His glory. 14 If you are ridiculed for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God…</em></p>
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<p>For me, I see all of these kind of things in the same light, the "testing of our Faith." <em>12 Dear friends, don’t be surprised when the fiery ordeal comes among you to test you as if something unusual were happening to you.ab 13 Instead, rejoice as you share in the sufferings of the Messiah,ac so that you may also rejoice with great joy at the revelation of His glory. 14 If you are ridiculed for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. 15 None of you, however, should suffer as a murderer, a thief, an evildoer, or a meddler. 16 But if anyone suffers as a “Christian,” he should not be ashamed but should glorify God in having that name. 1 Peter 4:12-16</em> Now this I know is talking about suffering and persecution. Still hearing all of what Jesus had done while He walked on earth, most of these people might had known someone who was Healed, or shared meals with thousands from just a small amount of food someone had. They may have heard about what happened when, The Spirit fell on those in the upper room, and thousands came to Jesus. Or, so many other miracles that had taken place. "Why are we going through this, when Jesus is so Powerful," some may of asked? </p>
<p>Our Hope is in Jesus, we trust in The Love of God. <em>2 Consider it a great joy, my brothers, whenever you experience various trials, 3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. 4 But endurance must do its complete work, so that you may be mature and complete, lacking nothing. James 1:2-4</em> We need these times of testing. We also need to come through these times, humbled and giving Glory to Jesus. As we can see, as we continue to read in this same chapter of James. I did not read about the skull, yet when we come to Jesus and give Him our heart, we change. We call Him Lord and Master, we have chosen to serve Him. We cannot see Him, as far as our senses are concerned we have no proof. To keep us from being tossed by this wave or that one, we Pray, we read His Word, We Praise Him, we fellowship and learn from those more mature. We open ourselves to The Spirit, to be lead according to The Word. </p>
<p>We all have a choice, we all face down things that can attack why or how we believe in Jesus as Lord and Saviour. In the end, the choices we make and why, will define who we are and who we were. It is not that I just chose not to look at things like the skull, so many things like this are out there. I have no answers for those questions. Yet, none of them can compare to Jesus and the Sacrifice He made for us. Accepting Him Does make a Difference, a lasting one, for that I am sure. </p> Ken is suppose to be at a fri…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2013-11-02:1383940:Comment:15147512013-11-02T23:38:04.493ZTammyhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/TammyHenson
<p>Ken is suppose to be at a friend's church tomorrow morning & evening.</p>
<p>Ken is suppose to be at a friend's church tomorrow morning & evening.</p> ROFL Confused. Yes, I never s…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2013-10-28:1383940:Comment:15134922013-10-28T21:00:15.874ZTammyhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/TammyHenson
<p>ROFL Confused. Yes, I never starting reading it. I seen the title & that it was copied & pasted & moved along to the next one. I don't always read the long replies written by individuals either sometimes though I do try. </p>
<p>ROFL Confused. Yes, I never starting reading it. I seen the title & that it was copied & pasted & moved along to the next one. I don't always read the long replies written by individuals either sometimes though I do try. </p> Thank you very much ,Amanda
…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2013-10-24:1383940:Comment:15127392013-10-24T20:27:49.624Zribbonhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/janie254
<p>Thank you very much ,Amanda</p>
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<p>I am sure I must have been taught this before but after reading your comment .... its just now really getting me to "see". I have always just thought of the Sabbath as a day of rest to rest and focus on biblical things. I guess I couldn't see it as Jesus Himself being the Sabbath. I need to study this.... soak it in. Thank you for helping me to understand better. I see better but my comprehension is slow to completely…</p>
<p>Thank you very much ,Amanda</p>
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<p>I am sure I must have been taught this before but after reading your comment .... its just now really getting me to "see". I have always just thought of the Sabbath as a day of rest to rest and focus on biblical things. I guess I couldn't see it as Jesus Himself being the Sabbath. I need to study this.... soak it in. Thank you for helping me to understand better. I see better but my comprehension is slow to completely understand.</p>
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<p> </p> Hi Amanda,
I'm not sure if I…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2013-10-24:1383940:Comment:15129072013-10-24T19:55:55.178ZRoyWhttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/RoyWilson
<p>Hi Amanda,</p>
<p>I'm not sure if I have read that or not. I have read some very much like it if I haven't read this particular one. His arguments are very sound. I do believe the Gospel is based on a literal Adam and Eve that ushered sin into our world. Jesus obviously did believe in and spoke of a literal Adam even though He does not mention his name. He puts Adam and Eve right there in the beginning of creation which could only be true if the six days were literal. Otherwise, man would be…</p>
<p>Hi Amanda,</p>
<p>I'm not sure if I have read that or not. I have read some very much like it if I haven't read this particular one. His arguments are very sound. I do believe the Gospel is based on a literal Adam and Eve that ushered sin into our world. Jesus obviously did believe in and spoke of a literal Adam even though He does not mention his name. He puts Adam and Eve right there in the beginning of creation which could only be true if the six days were literal. Otherwise, man would be billions of years after creation. I agree that it is pressure from the outside that forces us to make the six days long periods of time. I do not see how it can be interpreted that way. I am not a Hebrew scholar but the best scholars were included in the translation of the Bible into English. They all have it six days indicating six 24 hour periods. None of them interpreted or translated it as six long periods of time. There is not even a hint that it is anything but six days. </p> Yes.. and simplicity is good…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2013-10-24:1383940:Comment:15126572013-10-24T16:31:34.886ZCarlahttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/CarlaButler777
<p>Yes.. and simplicity is good here. :-)</p>
<p>Yes.. and simplicity is good here. :-)</p> Wow. Thank you. If I've had a…tag:www.allaboutgod.net,2013-10-24:1383940:Comment:15125982013-10-24T16:29:00.309ZAmandahttp://www.allaboutgod.net/profile/Godinmystorm
Wow. Thank you. If I've had any success at all, the glory goes to God alone. But this is just skimming truths off the surface. Think of our eternal rest in Jesus ...
Wow. Thank you. If I've had any success at all, the glory goes to God alone. But this is just skimming truths off the surface. Think of our eternal rest in Jesus ...