I say God is our Creator we dont exist, a life given to us if theres no one there from the beggining. If theres a creator how many He is is it ONE or many? I say again that they are many and there ONE of them which is THE GOD. Life and death exist that we dont hold on our own, He may be the one controls us or our own free will when making a life of a human like a baby or taken like of humans like death. We dont know if He is the one making us to do things we do or our own free will , we dont sense it that its our own way because its coming from our Head. Our brain which generates thoughts or action that comes from our own brain how we know that it is from Us and not from God? Even it is good or bad i think theres a trial for us. I say again that we must always be careful and always in CONTROL in our own actions to do Good things and How we control not to do bad things ? Just pray to God. FATE which is the unavoidable happening of events, which will happen to us its like we a puppet of Him (God) that leads to our own path or end(death). Thats why my conclusion and whats comes to my mind is that.... i rusty will worship God pray, and give thanks and make sorry for everything what i know that i do because i submitted my life to Him, that He is in Control of everything, and i will do what makes me happy and contented every day for a life given to me by Him in every seconds of Time. The end my conclusion free to comment or to do opinions
Are you asking about the Trinity? Father, Son, Holy Spirit. One God in Three Persons. God is fully complete as ONE in Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They each have different roles, but are equal. They ALL have divine nature with divine attributes and Glory.. This means there is one God existing eternally in three co-equal Persons.
Here are a few scriptures to touch lightly on these truths. There are many more, this is just a small appetizer.
The Father- Father sent the Son into the world 1 John 4:10. Our salvation is based on the Father’s power and love John 3:16 and 10:29.
The Son- Willing died for us and resurrected back to life to defeat sin and death for us to be reconciled to the Father. 1John 2:2 and Ephesians 2:6
Holy Spirit- Regenerates and Seals us for Eternal Life with the Father. Ephesians 4:30, Titus 3:5.
Each of the Persons in the Trinity also has other roles within the GODHead, but this is just a start.
I also think you may be asking about Free will. Are you asking if God controls us? The answer is; IF we are born again, the goal is to be controlled and filled with the Holy Spirit, and not by our sinful natures.. See Galatians Chapter 5. The more we abide in Jesus and let Him control us, the more we will live according to HIS will and not our own-- That's the whole point. We want to overcome our sinful natures, The Holy Spirit helps us, we need to be obedient.
" i rusty will worship God pray, and give thanks and make sorry for everything what i know that i do because i submitted my life to Him, that He is in Control of everything, and i will do what makes me happy and contented every day for a life given to me by Him in every seconds of Time."
Amen. Praise God.
The truth is that i dont have any idea about spirit like Holy ones, but i do have experience the word "soul or maybe in other words spirit, those Gods im telling is that what only told to me that they are many and i conclude that theres one of them. Because in my experience in a moment of time it becames i speak without control and the first comes out in my mouth is theres a SOUL or SPIRIT comes within me, the truth its either my brain becomes sick or my mind awakens like its subconcious part. It either science or religion but i think they are similar they just name it like that. I speak with myself without my control in my concscious mind as i remember it it almost 1 year that had past.
This conclusion if science its either its is only on ourselves and the nature of human mind the subconscious part , the hidden self of a person, and if nots i think it the soul or the spirit your talking about. But because i have faith i bet it on religion which is spirit or soul or God not the science which is subconscious part or personality. But i think its the same it just name it what it is. As for me only in my own guess, the word subconcious mind, or personality is the same as the spirit or soul that i have experience. Or the worst maybe my brain or mind has mental illness? What do you think? It kind of funny CARLA you still replying on me thank you for that. In chinese culture its a YIN OR YANG the duality (means two personality) . Sorry for telling other subjects. But to simplify its because WE believe in a calendar which less or more 2000 years that have past Jesus is the God above other religion, i think we should have faith in it. CARLA if you will be experience it, you might also change your beliefs like me but i dont really know for sure. I just follow and believe WHO or WHAT is within me the worst its an iLLNESS and im thankfull because this website is still active and there someone replying in my message like you, Thank you for that, finally my last statement that i believe that there is a God.
Carla, I hope you don’t mind me chiming in on this conversation, I know Rusty is talking with you, but I think Rusty may be a little confused about the trinity, seeing the word “trinity” is not in any of the translations I have access to, though three being used instead.
1 John 5:7-8 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
We are made up of three parts, spirit, soul, and body.
We have a Spirit, we have a soul, and we live in a body. When a person is born again, the spirit is the only part of the three that is born again, or recreated. (But, according to Ro.8:7-9, we are Spirit) Romans 8:7-9, Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
I see Rusty mentioned something about the hidden person.
1 Peter 3:4 (KJV) 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
In my opinion is the born-again spirit.
What are your thoughts?
Hi Sir JB long time no see , thanks for the scriptures your telling. It just comes to my head and i decided to share it when someone will reply in my post. Imagine Sir JB when the Human Body is created the Eyes which we aquire through our creator is the most important of all in our SENSES, because i aquire the information that there are many of THEM that i called God and theres One of them which is the ONE God, i think they exist in our world it just we dont have senses or a kind of an eyes to see it or feel it. Maybe they are the spirits which is God you said in the trinity the Holy ones, but for sure for me theres someone communicating to me that Time. Now i just live everyday and follow my faith, because i have known in that Time that being Good is important, now the value of what my good deeds that im doing is lessen because i have known it, not in the Times that im innocent of what to do or not. I decided to share what i got to this website whatever it is even it has a sense or not, because here in my place its like im outcast and no one is likely to talk to me, here there are some people like you that replying and make me feel that i have an importance, thank you for that.
My thoughts are because something is happen to me and my conscience tells me its my fault and i cried a lot in that Time makes me sincere in what i do until that suffering makes me everyday the grief of someone i have lost. Then someone or maybe i called it its God that touch me. First im not sure if its God but how will you define God if you did not experience it and we humans Just NAME and DEFINE what to be a God.
The words you sighted are meant to be seen or maybe it just an coincidence.
In the bible its says a born again to enter in the Kingdom of heaven, for me i think that i have pass or answer correctly the test or trial that comes to me because of that i think that event which concerning what i called God if im not mentally ill it happened.
My suggestion that in our daily life there would come a test or trial on us and if we do it correctly, we can feel it our God
Or maybe there was a designated Time in each one of Us that it will be happen
Rusty, this was supposed to be a response to your other post, I didn't see a reply button, so I thought I would try to post it here.
Hello Rusty, I don’t think anyone here wants you to stop, after all this site is here, “from my understanding” is to help and encourage those that need a little boost now and then. We don’t claim to be psychologists, or psychiatrist, we desire to help people understand that we were all sinners and have need of a savior. And point them to Christ as our redeemer. But seems most have a tendency to look for relief in their feelings, if they can’t see it, feel it, smell or taste it, it obviously isn’t there. But your senses have nothing to do with your salvation. Your spirit is the only part of you that has received eternal life. God has given to us ALL THINGS that pertain unto life and godliness, but it is through the knowledge of Him who has called us glory and virtue, 2 Peter 1:1-4 (KJV) 1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: 2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, 3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
This knowledge He is speaking of is not just knowing that there is a God. Knowledge is ep-ig'-no-sis in the Grk. Meaning “ recognition, i.e. full discernment, acknowledgment .” We study the Word to gain that knowledge, therefore faith comes, and we walk by faith, and not by sight, or our feelings. Unless a man is born again, his reasoning faculties are totally dependent upon his five physical senses. But you can be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Renew your mind to the Word of God, and don’t be led away by what you can perceive with your senses. The Word of God must become a reality to us, not just theory or a doctrine.
Lord Bless JB
Hi Sir Jb your explanation is great, you make the best to sight about psychiatrists or psychologist or the one who studies the mind, because we know that it comes first from that view our mind or head. But we cannot control our mind all that we had read or the many books we study, its just function like this,,, what is like this how do we know that we had same view in our mind compared to others as i read your reply i see that you understand what i said. I want also to share to you Sir Jb thank you for lots of time efforts you had given to reply, that it happened on me that day, first i speak only the Word "God" many times in my mind and my heart beat fast i speak it like i was begging and praying, needing for help and it happened i dont know why i believe in that time that my heart beat fast its kind of refreshing feeling, that happened 1 year ago. Yes i believe in that Word which is God and all that comes to it like our Holy Bible.... That ends to it some of what can i share is not a major happenning in that time and it happens after that year which is now. Now i dont know what should be my purpose in life ,, To help others? Make them happy? To protect them with my OWN LIFE? To give all that i have for the sake of GOD, to change other persons or influence them towards God...... or maybe just to have a career with a good making money, i know the answer but i dont know if i can do it. Thats all Sir Jb thanks for encouraging me and if i can help you just tell me ill do what can i do
Hello Rusty, Thanks for your reply, I pray for you brother Eph.1:17, KJV. That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of Glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, that the eyes of your understanding be enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of His calling, and what is the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the Saints, and what is the exceeding greatness of His power to us-ward who believe, according the working of His mighty power which He wrought in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead….
But what I want to say Rusty is, that most Christians don’t have a working knowledge of the spirit, soul, and body, they’re dominated by what they can see, feel, taste, smell, and hear, instead of God’s Word. And the flow of life within them stays turned off because they don’t believe anything they can’t see. Neither do they understand the change that happened in their born-again spirits, nor are they fully aware of who they are in Christ. To them something’s just not “real” if it can’t be perceived through their five natural senses. But attempting to be “honest” they search their physical, emotional, and mental realms for God’s power. If they can’t perceive it in those areas, then they feel they must not have it. However, the truth is that old things passed away and all things became new in your spirit the moment you were born again. Now everything you will ever need in your Christian life is already there. 2Pet.1:2, “Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God and Jesus our Lord, according as His Devine power hath given unto us, all things that pertain unto life and godliness through the knowledge of Him who hath called us to glory and virtue. Rom.12:1-2, “be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind.” Our minds must be renewed to the Word of God, so, to do that we need to give the Word 1st. place in our lives. And to give the Word first place, and to build up our spirits, we need to, #1. Meditate in the Word. #2 Practice the Word, #3. In all our ways we are to acknowledge Him as Lord. #4. By instantly obeying the voice of our spirit. Because a person with an un-renewed mind, is always waging a war against unbelief, always praying for faith, but never arriving, always talking unbelief, yet he is struggling to get faith, confessing failure, and at the same time confessing faith in the Word, yet he’s denying it in action, trying to believe, yet never acting on the Word. People will sit back and wait for God to do something, give them peace, heal them, deliver them etc. but all the time He is telling us that He has already given to us everything that pertains unto life and godliness. So what’s our part? Philemon 1:6 says that “The communication of our faith may become effectual, by the acknowledging of everything good thing that is in us. In Christ Jesus” And the good thing that is in us, is His Word, His Holy Spirit, our recreated spirit. All we need to do is believe in His substitution. We are free from sin, guilt, judgment, He said, John 12:31, 32 “now is the Judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out...”, “and I, if I be lifted-up from the earth, I will draw all men, (men)” is italicized in the bible, meaning that the translators personally inserted that in, but, if we read it in context, He is talking about “judgment”, “not men.” (Mine and others opinions, or understanding)
Thanks Sir Jb, truthfully i dont have any reference on the Bible you just help me push my understanding and knowledge and thank you for that JB. I can only share what i got that is related to extraordinary events or circumstances that i am facing which is i think the Works of God. Sir Jb before i sleep that day , i speak without my control but with my conscious mind that "there is spirit or soul comes within me" and after that i speak and speak without my control its like there someone replying in EVERY THOUGHTS that i have in my head. And ofcourse i am telling it to you its permitted to share because YOU GIVE ME SOME OF YOURS and I NEED TO GIVE MINE. FIRST its maybe a soul or spirit, Second a subconcious mind, third a Yin or Yang in chinese culture, Fourth the worst i am mentally ill and last its the way of communicating by God for its creatures of living things He had made. Its like this i try to listen to myself without speaking to know if His still there and then there He speaks, its the thoughts and the arrangement of it in your minds the sequence of the thoughts generating in your mind. This is only left to me so by Him or Any , the system of our conversation is either a Yes or No or He will be silent. Like this Yes go there, No eat first..... and many others and also its like reflecting my whole personality in a different way , its always a do of a Yes or No. Now while im typing here i also have a conversation to Him on what would i say to this.... This is the only evidence i have which is not ordinary that happen to me which i am thinking that related to God 1 year almost had passed . What do you think Sir Jb if im 27 last year and im 28 now, if a person is born with this kind of circumstances or happening since birth or what they got in their heads , is it like foretelling the FUTURE? or it is like a guide in their Head? Or its like a walking encyclopedia?, for me i know what i got and i cherish it but i would not know what will happen to me next. I Fear this, i love this, i enjoy this, and my loneliness disappear because of this. If you got some clarifications and want to know from me Sir Jb just tell me and im happy to share. May always God bless our conversation and this website. Feel free to comment from others
I appreciate you telling me about yourself, your experiences, your talking before going to sleep, you not knowing if it is of God or not. I am of the belief that what the psychologist, or psychiatrist call the SUBCONSCIOUS MIND, for a person that is born again, it is his Recreated spirit speaking to him. I don't believe in a subconscious mind. When we can calm our reasoning faculties down, we can hear the Spirit of God speaking to us through our Recreated spirit, which will be your conscience. That can also be the Grace of God influencing your heart. Grace in the Greek meaning, literal, figurative or spiritual; especially the divine influence upon the heart, and its reflection in the life.
Remember Rusty, You are a spirit, you have a soul, and you live in a body. So, the real you, is your spirit. Your born-again spirit is the only part of you that can contact God.
Rusty, do I understand you don’t have a bible; and you are just going by your experiences, and what you are hearing in your head? If you believe in Jesus Christ, and that He is the Son of God, and that He died for your sins, and have accepted Him as your savior, then you are born again, and bible says that you can come boldly to the throne of Grace that you may obtain Mercy and find Grace to help in the time of need. So just ask God to reveal to you His Love, Grace and Mercy. And then just thank Him for it.
We can talk more later; I know Carla was going to have more impute later.
So, May the Lord bless you by revealing His Love to you.
Yes i have a bible, but im not almost refering to it, but i believe on it, i dont have anything to say. I just enjoy this circumstances happening on me, i cannot help it but to share and absorb the views of others like you JB. As of now my head is blank and in neutral state whether its a Yes or No about this. Thank you for replying in me and giving me time for your reply, i dont have anything to say for now im glad your there bye
Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you. It's a busy time of year for my family, I'm not able to be online as much as before.
For now I just want to add to something JB has said. "You are a spirit, you have a soul, and you live in a body. So, the real you, is your spirit. Your born-again spirit is the only part of you that can contact God."
Just to elaborate on this a bit further, this means that your spirit IS PERFECT IN CHRIST because that is the part of you that by repenting of your sin and believing the gospel, has been born again. Your soul and your body (same for all of us) are not perfected In Christ yet. We are still fighting our fallen sinful natures, it's literally a war going on inside us. BUT, In Christ we have Victory over sin and death. I don't know if you remember me asking you about Spiritual Warfare and what you know about it.
It's very important for us as Christians to study the bible and learn the things that Jesus teaches us and the ways HE empowers us to live. We also need to learn and be confident in God the Father's Character, otherwise doubts will set in and faith will begin to falter. I urge you to study the bible so that you will fully know who Jesus is, what HE has done for us, and how He wants us to live.
When you know God's character and difficulties occur in your life, you will not be shaken because you KNOW HIM. God reveals HIMSELF and HIs Character to us through Jesus Christ.
There is most definitely some confusion...
I'll take a look later to try and shed some light also...