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Abides forever? Is it means to live forever, i wanna discuss this please bear with me

1 John 2 15-17

15 Do not love the world or the things in the world

If anyone loves the world, the love of the father is not in Him

* its clear that says not to love the world because we will not love by the father which is God, but what is world the next to it was

16 For all that is in the world- the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life- is not of the Father but is of the world.

*the lust of the flesh, means lust of human body or sex, adding to it was the meaning of flesh, which is also the Food or the raw materials in our world which is OTHER word for flesh. Next is Lust of eyes all things that our eyes wanna get or the meaning of LUST the beauty in our eyes which all of us has a taste in our eyes the way we see EVERY-THING in our world. Final is pride of Life im not sure to this but can you help me to interpret this, i think its the love of Self to preserve life or dignity or self importance or self respect, all that pertains to oneself, example you want to be on top of all you wanna be the best of all thats i think it was

17 And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever.

*Means all pertaining or in the world will end the one mentioned in the sentence above but the one who does the will of God means NOT doing the above LUST, im not sure, "abides forever" i dont know if abides here means "live forever" but i think the consequence of the above doings will be great because its too very hard to do it.

Imagining the word which is WORLD ITSELF is it almost perferct as a Human being descended to us like Jesus Christ as God, but what you think if we try to accomplish the above scriptures giving it a try even its not perfect will God will the word " abides forever" the word FOREVER is the most pleasant to hear at all, what do you think any suggestions or comments or agrue, debate with it? Thanks

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Hi Rusty,

'Forever' is a pleasant word to hear, but only when we are talking about 'abiding' in Christ.  After we die, if we're not IN Christ (abiding) than 'forever' isn't pleasant at all, instead it is rather terrifying.

To 'abide In Christ' means to 'remain' in Him. 

Romans 8:1 says "There is now no condemnation for those who are IN Christ."

2 Corinthians 5:17 says "17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come."

John 10:28,29 says "28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand."

To abide IN Christ means to be a believer.  It means to be obedient to His teachings.

1 John 2:3-6 says "And we can be sure that we know him if we obey his commandments. If someone claims, “I know God,” but doesn’t obey God’s commandments, that person is a liar and is not living in the truth. But those who obey God’s word truly show how completely they love him. That is how we know we are living in him. Those who say they live in God should live their lives as Jesus did."

Abiding IN, Remaining IN, and Knowing Christ all mean that person is saved by Christ.  It means that person is a born again believer.  It is a positional truth of all believers.

John 15:1-7 says "

“I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn’t produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more. You have already been pruned and purified by the message I have given you. Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me.

“Yes, I am the vine; you are the branches. Those who remain in me, and I in them, will produce much fruit. For apart from me you can do nothing. Anyone who does not remain in me is thrown away like a useless branch and withers. Such branches are gathered into a pile to be burned. But if you remain in me and my words remain in you, you may ask for anything you want, and it will be granted! When you produce much fruit, you are my true disciples. This brings great glory to my Father."

Therefore, to 'abide forever' is the most pleasant thing.

Blessings, Carla

Then the word "REMAIN" the meaning of abide

7 But if you "remain" in me and my words "remain" in you, you may ask for anything you want and it will be granted.

Abides forever means remain or stays forever its the same as lives (in) forever, its really hard to interpret the words if its not complete explanation and not elaborated, thanks for this carla

You’re welcome Rusty. Happy to help 

I can chat with you? Not in this blog page lol, because it kind of boring here i dont have a person to talk to

Hi Rusty.. At some point we can chat.  I won't be online from Sunday March 24th to April 9th as I am travelling those dates and I won't have my computer with me.  We can try to connect after April the 9th.

Please don't be discouraged if you don't see me respond here since I'll be gone for those dates.

Blessings, Carla

Now your available?

No, I’m driving to visit family 

Ok thanks

Yes, forever, eternally in damnation should be a terrifying thought.

It is actually God's mercy to tell us what will be facing if we are not found in Christ on the judgment day, he shows us where we need to be to be safe. Not only that, he promises a place of eternal joy if we would hear him and obey his word. He has given us all time to prepare ourselves, to make sure we are saved. 

The scriptures say that The grace of God hath appeared to ALL men. There is not one who he has not warned.


But its hard to do the above scriptures its totally says the lust of the WORLD were we belong. Its hard to do it example eating your favorite, avoiding sex , but it says "LUST" not NOT DOING IT. THE last is pride of life. The most hard part of it, it affects out emotions for ourselves not to be important at all times , becoming humble as always. Yes i agree you mean heaven and hell. I look for now how to live here while alive by being fair and good even i dont maybe believe in completely in heaven or hell. But the thing is i do acts or decision by being good even others see it as a foolish acts, maybe who knows whats good or not , foolish or not . If we just based only on our own judgement not by other or maybe by God itself. Example our judgement if we give money to a beggar or the one needing help, what would your reasons for doing and not doing it. Who says its Good or not, by giving you help the others, and the other side you prevent them to stand on their own feet like finding a job. Then what would you do help them or not? , i think the answers depends on the reasoning on your mind which God can truly reads. So my prayer is God help us everyday in our own thoughts and actions and decisions in our life, but not as always like He will babysits us. I cannot comprehend at all what is all about God if maybe i can God let it be. I always want to understand what it says all about God so im here doing some talk and replying i hope you would reply sooner because i think my spirit cannot help to talk about God.


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